Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Michael Kesper
Am 19. Juli 2017 00:23:00 MESZ schrieb Kurtis Hanna : >What I'm saying is that, IMHO, buying/using a device that likely would >have ended up in the trash or recycled for parts is more ethical than >buying a newly manufactured phone every 18 months, even if it is made >with mostly recycled or ethica

Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Decarraig
Hi Kurtis, Technoethical sounds interesting but if the original device was not ethical (I don't know about Samsungs record) the refurbished device would hardly be ethical either ? I am thinking of the device rather than the software / OS Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jul 2017, at 21:55, Kurtis Hann

Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Kurtis Hanna
What I'm saying is that, IMHO, buying/using a device that likely would have ended up in the trash or recycled for parts is more ethical than buying a newly manufactured phone every 18 months, even if it is made with mostly recycled or ethically sourced material. Reduce / Reuse / Recycle Decarraig

Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Kurtis Hanna
I wanted to mention that, when it comes to figuring out what phone has the least environmental / social injustice impact, it is sometimes better to buy used and refurbished devices than it is to buy Fairphone type devices. New phones that use recycled and ethically sourced materials are great! Pr

Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/07/17 20:51, Decarraig wrote: > I have been following various discussions on andr...@lists.fsfe.org and I am > wondering if FSFE has any policy on ethical issues with mobile phones e.g. > Conflict mining, cobalt mining etc ? When we start to see ethical cigarettes and honest politicians, y

Re: Ethical phones

2017-07-18 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I know only the following references (from FSF, but can also apply for FSFE I think): - [[https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom]]. - [[https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-non-gnu-distros.html]]. -- - [[https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno]] - Palestrante e consulto