On Friday, 24 September 2021 08:17:04 CEST Nico Rikken wrote:
> Interesting remarks and helpful to the discussion. Happy to hear that
> the Norwegian Data Protection Authority came to that decision.
They aren't the only ones:
"Norwegian Biotechnology Advisory Board leaves Facebook"
https://www.bi
Hi,
I think the last few years showed that what once may have been a reasonable
point of view (i.e. trying to be a voice of dissent) is not possible on a site
that actively prevents their users from seeing those dissenting views.
> When will it be time to remove the FSFE page? Or is it the FSFE
Interesting remarks and helpful to the discussion. Happy to hear that
the Norwegian Data Protection Authority came to that decision.
I just checked the FSFE's Facebook presence
https://www.facebook.com/thefsfe/
The last message is a post linking to other platforms:
This site is inactive.
Apart
Hello,
Remember this thread? ;-)
On Friday, 23 March 2018 17:48:35 CEST Florian Snow wrote:
>
> If we meet those conditions, I think we can gain from being on platforms
> like Facebook because we can reach people that we would not reach
> otherwise and hopefully, in the process, they will become
On 04/04/18 09:56, Theo Schmidt wrote:
> Am 23.03.2018 um 17:48 schrieb Florian Snow:
> ...
>> On a sidenote, I think Facebook is a symptom of a privacy issue we as a
>> society have, but one that is currently starting to fail. Not because
>> people realized it tracks them, but because they are
Am 23.03.2018 um 17:48 schrieb Florian Snow:
...
> On a sidenote, I think Facebook is a symptom of a privacy issue we as a
> society have, but one that is currently starting to fail. Not because
> people realized it tracks them, but because they are choosing to be
> tracked by someone else. A lot
> Could be not running non free JS, if that's the main concern. I believe
> only messenger requires non free JS?
If one considers my recent amendment --- where we would be relying on
"other people" (see amendment for the meaning of this specific
invocation) --- then I agree, only we, free/libre so
> This is kind of problematic.
>
> In organization management --- not specific to "business" ---,
> particularly involving descentralized organizations with different
> managers each, this creates communication noise or action
> inconsistency. Of course each continent has its own culture, but I fai
I think you have misunderstood sir. It's a usage of Facebook to have it
do a job of spreading a message that you can get it to do without it
managing to get anything from the broadcaster that it demands but the
broadcaster holds fast on.
Could be not running non free JS, if that's the main concern
> RMS says yadda yadda, so what?
>
> You can advertise on Facebook, post events, etc. I would not recommend
> you to put any private data in there that you consider do not belong to
> the eyes of Facebook or NSA or whoever that you do not trust.
This is kind of problematic.
In organization manage
RMS says yadda yadda, so what?
You can advertise on Facebook, post events, etc. I would not recommend
you to put any private data in there that you consider do not belong to
the eyes of Facebook or NSA or whoever that you do not trust.
Ani
On Fri, 2018-03-23 at 03:38 -0600, C. Cossé wrote:
> To
Thank you for your thoughtful replay, Florian :) I agree with your
assessment of Mozilla's motives. Under the premises you described, I
guess personally I'm fine with FSFE keeping the profile. I guess my
point was, if FSFE wanted to delete (or "pause") their profile, now
would have been a good oppo
Hi Jonke,
I can't help but feel this is a PR stunt from Mozilla. Facebook
recently had a privacy scandal, but Facebook is the same it has always
been. Asking them to reform their business is pointless because they
make money tracking users, so they can't stop tracking them. Also, at
the end of
> The FSFE is also present on LinkedIn, as far as I remember, and I regard that
> service in a similarly negative way, in the sense that it is effectively a
> data-mining exercise for some division of Microsoft.
Speaking of LinkedIn, I noticed that it doesn't federate also.
Morever, some months
On Friday 23. March 2018 14.40.58 Max Mehl wrote:
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> That said, I think the only purpose the FSFE's FB page currently serves
> is that 1. the name is taken to prevent hoaxers from imitating an
> "official" page, and 2. for people to find us if they – for whatever
> crazy reason – try to search us
On Friday 23. March 2018 11.12.14 psutton wrote:
>
> try and leave facebook and it nags you and you're made to feel guilty
> you have left.
Yes, one "farewell page" I have seen tries to make you feel like you're
betraying your friends by abandoning them. To be fair, you really would be
doing th
Jonke Suhr ha scritto:
[...]
(Non-tracked link to the source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180323091845/https://de-de.facebook.com/mozilla/posts/10156139176287381)
What do you guys think?
Nice move, I'd appreciate FSFE explicitely "pausing" its Facebook
activity. At the same time the Dia
> irregardless of the split in our community between privacy pragmatists
> and privacy absolutists, I think we should take note of this step
> Mozilla has taken, as I believe FSFE still has a Facebook page (last
> active on September 21st as far as I can ascertain).
I would also like to note that
Or like the Eagles said about Hotel California
'you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave,'
try and leave facebook and it nags you and you're made to feel guilty
you have left.
Paul
On 23/03/18 10:07, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> David Gerard writes:
>
>> The problem with Facebo
David Gerard writes:
> The problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and the
> bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only one where you can find
> everyone.
It is also the only bar where bartenders track your lives to make sure
you get completely drunk and stay there forever.
On 23/03/18 09:49, Jonke Suhr wrote:
> Am 23.03.2018 um 10:30 schrieb psutton:
>> How about joining Diaspora, the community would really like more big
>> players like Mozilla on board so that you can engage in the community
>> and that also encourags others to come to Diaspora.
> FSFE is alrea
Am 23.03.2018 um 10:30 schrieb psutton:
> How about joining Diaspora, the community would really like more big
> players like Mozilla on board so that you can engage in the community
> and that also encourags others to come to Diaspora.
FSFE is already on Diaspora, I recommend everyone to follo
My counter argument to the only 'place to find everyone' is to join
Diaspora etc anyway, tell people know, you are on there, it lessens
the argument small steps, that is all it generally takes. Once you
are on these other networks people have a reason to join, and hopefully
eventually mov
Sure but uf you're using FB to spread the word on privacy and
freesoftware, you probably get mocked or trolled and when this sort of
thing breaks the news headlines, you can smugly say 'told you so'
I have said this before sometimes I think you need to join the enemy in
order to spread your vie
Totally agree
for instance, I am not on nor even been on facebook
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>
> On 23/03/18 10:32, David Gerard wrote:
> > The problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and the
> > bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only
On 23/03/18 10:32, David Gerard wrote:
> The problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and the
> bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only one where you can find
> everyone.
>
Please don't spread myths
You won't find everyone on facebook, that is a fact
To me it's a question of consistency: does FSFE not agree with FSF? RMS
says "absolutely no to Facebook", so then?
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:32 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> The problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and the
> bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only one whe
Hi
How about joining Diaspora, the community would really like more big
players like Mozilla on board so that you can engage in the community
and that also encourags others to come to Diaspora.
https://diasporafoundation.org/
https://joindiaspora.com/i/29e3c17d2ef2 - join link for the
joind
The problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and the
bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only one where you can find
everyone.
So the question is its tactical usefulness for outreach versus its awfulness.
On 23 March 2018 at 09:20, Jonke Suhr wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> irregardle
Hey all,
irregardless of the split in our community between privacy pragmatists
and privacy absolutists, I think we should take note of this step
Mozilla has taken, as I believe FSFE still has a Facebook page (last
active on September 21st as far as I can ascertain).
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