Re: FSFE General Assembly Fellowship Representative Election

On 11/04/17 22:21, Joe Awni wrote: > Paul, > > The husting (singular) was the occasion for an interesting discussion > with candidates. But, as others have indicated, we don't need a > special occasion to upload IRC logs to the wiki. Alot of interesting > ideas are coming up in this email

Re: FSFE General Assembly Fellowship Representative Election

On 12 April 2017 13:52:54 CEST, Stefan Umit Uygur wrote: >Sorry to hi-jack the general assembly thread to reply to the article on >planet. > >I personally tend to disagree with any extremist idea and have to say, >even >though I'd love to be in the world described in Daniel's

Re: FSFE General Assembly Fellowship Representative Election

On 10/04/17 16:16, Paul Boddie wrote: > Now, reading the candidates' statements, only one of the candidates mentions > volunteering and really only in the context of more of it being required, > which doesn't necessarily make sense if volunteer activities end up not being > particularly

Re: FSFE General Assembly Fellowship Representative Election

On 12/04/17 19:28, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, Stefan, Paul, > >>> If somebody cleaned their home every day to the same standard as a >>> hospital, most people would consider it extreme. But in the context of >>> the hospital it would be desirable behavior. >> >> On the other hand if you

Re: FSFE: Replicant needs your help!

On 06/04/17 23:27, Joseph Graham wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 09:16:00PM +, Kurtis Hanna wrote: >> >> Here's the issue, Wolfgang is in need of more devices in order to port >> them to Replicant 6.0. >> > > Not on your list but I have a good condition Galaxy S5 I could send. > Would

Re: FSFE financial transparency

On 14/08/17 12:00, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> Is there a strong reason not to publish that? > > When we started reporting the number internally, the question was about > the benefit of reporting this with some feeling that publishing the (then > low) number of fellows would deter

Re: FSFE financial transparency

On 14/08/17 15:04, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> It is already public in the report[1] on the fellowship elections. > > Yes, you may be able to find occasional references to it and numbers which > you may infer from other information given. > >> Then it will be much easier for fellows

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 06/07/17 17:28, Erik Albers wrote: > I think you get the point. Metrics in the real world are pretty hard to > interpret. However, like it or not, metrics in the digital sphere and on > (proprietary) social media platforms seem easier to access and to make > connections. For example when our

Re: Ethical phones

On 17/07/17 20:51, Decarraig wrote: > I have been following various discussions on andr...@lists.fsfe.org and I am > wondering if FSFE has any policy on ethical issues with mobile phones e.g. > Conflict mining, cobalt mining etc ? When we start to see ethical cigarettes and honest politicians,

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 25/07/17 14:19, Max Mehl wrote: > # Paul Boddie [2017-07-25 12:58 +0200]: >> On Tuesday 25. July 2017 11.41.48 Max Mehl wrote: >>> >>> I would love to live in a world where we could abolish all proprietary >>> tools. But unfortunately the carefully dosed usage of some proprietary >>> networks

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 23/07/17 09:03, Evaggelos Balaskas wrote: > Social media are now part of our life (I am not debating if they > should or not), but diminish them to cat videos is a strong opinion. > 90% of email is SPAM, should we stop using email? Lots of people have > their email to a proprietary platform.

negative campaigning?

This was raised by Jonas in the thread about proprietary software, but it is a completely different topic, so I'm starting this thread about it: "we also don't do negative campaigning overall. We tell people they should use Free Software; we don't tell them what software they should not be

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 26/07/17 10:53, Max Mehl wrote: > Hi Jonas, > > # Jonas Oberg [2017-07-26 10:37 +0200]: >>> Some services are Free Software unfriendly and harm your privacy. >> >> Are there any services we list which don't work with Free Software? If >> so, >> I think it's best to state that: >> >> Some

dual FSF and FSFE membership

(this was also queried on the FSF LibrePlanet list[1]) Does either organization (FSF or FSFE) have a position on dual membership, being a member of both organizations? Was this contemplated when the relationship between the two organizations originated? Has there been any discussion about a

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 24 July 2017 14:33:04 CEST, Nikos Roussos <comzer...@fsfe.org> wrote: > > >On July 24, 2017 2:24:31 PM GMT+02:00, Daniel Pocock ><dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: >>On 24/07/17 14:18, Reinhard Müller wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am 2017-07-24 um 14:1

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 24 July 2017 15:05:51 CEST, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: >Indeed. > >I also agree with this. > >As a subject for another topic, here are other analogies that don't >quite work as we'd expect: > >- "Non-free software is like slavery". However, it isn't, because the >

Re: Fellowship elections participation

On 26/04/17 08:36, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> I wonder if FSFE could get a summer intern to look at this specific >> question, look at the models used by other non-profit organizations, >> survey volunteers and donors and prepare a shortlist of options? > > That's a good idea. In a

Re: Fellowship elections participation

On 27/04/17 06:23, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> writes: >> Another pattern is for people to be full members of a local or national >> association and then each of those associations sends a delegate to a >> p

Re: Fellowship elections participation

On 27/04/17 06:46, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I appreciate your effort here, but I would advise to perhaps not re-open > this topic again already. The change away from Fellow to some other I'm not suggesting to re-open it immediately, rather, to put it on hold while the bigger

Re: Fellowship elections participation

On 25/04/17 19:32, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> If there were new words to consider, could the discussion be re-opened? > > I would be hesitant about having a new discussion, at least one which > we would need to spend staff time on. If there would be a more complete > proposal made

Re: Open Agriculture / Free (as in Freedom) Food

On 11/05/17 08:17, Antonello Lobianco (not reply) wrote: > Hello, I didn't understand what is it all about... sorry to look rude, > but could you provide a small document that introduce the topic? In > general, I don't like/have the time to watch videos, and I can't judge > from your email if it

Re: Open Agriculture / Free (as in Freedom) Food

On 11/05/17 10:00, Carsten Agger wrote: > > That said, the ideas behind the food computer are interesting. It might > be the most rational way to source some plants (rather than exploit > vulnerable ecosystems and have them shipped across the globe), and in > terms of sustainability it might be

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 21/06/17 12:22, Erik Albers wrote: > Now I would be interested what you think? Do you think that - although the use > of proprietary platforms is ethically not supportable - the chances of > convincing new people to use and further Free Software are worth the > punishment? > Or do you think

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 22/06/17 20:51, Mirko Boehm - FSFE wrote: > Hi everybody! > >> On 21. Jun 2017, at 17:20, Federico Bruni <f...@inventati.org >> <mailto:f...@inventati.org>> wrote: >> >> Il giorno mer 21 giu 2017 alle 16:47, Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.

accounting software used by FSFE and other associations

Hi, Which accounting software is currently used by FSFE? Which solutions are other free software organizations using? There is currently some discussion about choosing something for the Open Labs hackerspace in Tirana[1] Regards, Daniel 1.

UK to "end" encryption?

Hi all, There is speculation in the UK press that the government there will take further steps[1] against encryption, using the Manchester bombing as an excuse. "Government officials appear to have briefed newspapers that they will put many of the most invasive parts of the relatively new

Re: accounting software used by FSFE and other associations

On 18/05/17 16:36, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Hi, Daniel! > > Am 2017-05-18 um 16:25 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> Which accounting software is currently used by FSFE? > > FSFE currently uses plain CSV files which are to a very large > extent automatically filled from various

Re: Please help us spread the word on Roundcube Next

On 06/06/15 12:13, Georg C. F. Greve wrote: > Direct link for your convenience: > > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2/x/4658765#/story I > notice XMPP chat and WebRTC are mentioned in the list of 10 features: can you confirm if the WebRTC calling feature (#4) will use

anybody going to TÜBIX (Tübingen statt), near Stuttgart?

Hi, Is anybody going to TÜBIX on 24 June? Regards, Daniel 1. http://www.tuebix.org/ ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion

Re: ideas for laptop selection

On 30/04/17 20:59, Steven R. Baker wrote: > > > On 30/04/17 20:05, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> On 30/04/17 17:00, Steven R. Baker wrote: >>> I've spent a lot of time thinking about this lately. My next machine >>> will be a Purism Librem, I think. But I'v

Re: Crowdfunding a NAS device that respects your freedom

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/05/17 13:57, Christian Pietsch wrote: > Hi Daniel, hi all, > > just two comments: > > On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 01:41:03PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 02/05/17 12:21, Christian Pietsch wrote: >>> http

Re: Crowdfunding a NAS device that respects your freedom

On 02/05/17 12:21, Christian Pietsch wrote: > Hi all, > > I am thankful to the FSF for its RYF campaign and certification. > One thing that is missing in the list of certified devices > is a NAS (network > attached storage) device. Crowdfunding

Re: ideas for laptop selection

On 02/05/17 16:54, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Tuesday 2. May 2017 15.45.38 Evaggelos Balaskas wrote: >> Here is my suggestion: pinebook >> >> https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=3707 > > Does that use the same Allwinner SoC as the Olimex laptop...? > >

Re: ideas for laptop selection

On 30/04/17 17:00, Steven R. Baker wrote: > I've spent a lot of time thinking about this lately. My next machine > will be a Purism Librem, I think. But I've been a life-long fan of > ThinkPads. I currently have a W550s, an X250, and an X1 Carbon. Cannot > recommend enough. > I've also been on

Re: Fwd: [libreplanet-discuss] cataloguing free software events globally and locally

On 28/06/17 09:45, Matthias Kirschner wrote: > * Daniel Pocock [2017-06-28 09:19 +0200]: > >> I recently posted this on LibrePlanet and in response people shared >> various resources[10] tracking events. Are there any more examples >> people could share? > >

Fwd: [libreplanet-discuss] cataloguing free software events globally and locally

Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] cataloguing free software events globally and locally Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:19:50 +0200 From: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> To: LibrePlanet Discuss <libreplanet-disc...@libreplanet.org> One of the biggest concerns people have about leavi

separate GA and community meetings

Hi all, There are upcoming meetings of the GA (October) and FSFE community (November) I want to raise the question of why these happen separately. For example, the GA weekend only includes a brief formal meeting of GA members, the last time this happened, it took just 15 minutes[1]. The rest

"joining" the FSFE

Hi all, Whenever I'm discussing FSFE with people at an event, somebody inevitably asks me about the joining process or what it means to be an FSFE member. There has actually been some ambiguity about this.  The main page of the web site has a "Join the FSFE" button, it is very prominent. It

improving fellowship communication (GA motion)

1. https://fsfe.org/about/legal/constitution.en.html Forwarded Message Subject:improving fellowship communication Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:53:27 +0200 From: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> To: g...@fsfeurope.org Hi all, As I've been elected

Re: "joining" the FSFE

On 02/10/17 14:13, Cornelia.sulzbach wrote: > This is shameful! There ist no reason to not let everyone become a > member. I have read today. I have read a lot, and it is clear the FSF > should be ashamed of themselves. I am glad there are people like you > Daniel who can change this! Just read: >

Re: community feedback on GA meeting agenda?

On 28/09/17 14:06, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> Notice that in that proposal, the word "remove" is the only possibility >> in the first sentence and the word "remove" is the leading option in the >> second sentence. > So we can ask Matthias to rephrase that perhaps. It's factually true >

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

ns from suitably qualified female >> candidates. > from https://fsfe.org/contribute/internship.en.html > > I'd personally be a little bit disappointed if this carried any > significance in my being selected as intern, because I do believe that I > can hold my own with my uniq

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

On 26/07/17 01:28, Guido Arnold wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 25/07/17 14:56, Max Mehl wrote: >>> # Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]: >>>> What is the value of 1000 new followers though? >>>> >>&

Re: an FSFE hackathon?

This might be a good topic for discussion at the community meeting this weekend. On 25/08/17 13:53, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Hi all, > > Has there ever been an FSFE hackathon? > > How would people feel about having such an event, or even a few small > h

Re: "Joining" vs "becoming a supporter"

On 30/11/17 16:26, Gergely Székely wrote: > Hi! > > I think it was not a good idea at all to change the "Join the ..." to > "Become a supporter". > Asking people to join means they should have an equal status. The current constitution doesn't treat all members equally (a GA member has a

Re: "Joining" vs "becoming a supporter"

On 01/12/17 13:20, Matthias Kirschner wrote: > * Daniel Pocock [2017-12-01 11:32 +0100]: >> Another idea that was raised: keep the "Join" buttons and the "Join" >> page, but make it very clear on the page what people can do, e.g. give >> them boxes th

Re: Public Money Public Code: a good policy for FSFE and other non-profits?

On 15/06/18 16:45, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Am 2018-06-15 um 12:12 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >>> No proprietary software runs on any of FSFE's servers in userspace, and >>> of course all software developed by FSFE staff or by contractors paid by >>> FSFE is free sof

Re: the questions you really want FSFE to answer

On 15/06/18 18:28, Torsten Grote wrote: > On 06/14/2018 07:25 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> There are currently no other elected representatives of the community in >> the General Assembly > > I am a bit surprised by this claim. What do you consider "the community&quo

Re: Public Money Public Code: a good policy for FSFE and other non-profits?

On 16/06/18 15:29, Albert Dengg wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 09:50:42AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > ... >> >> In this particular thread, another staff member, Erik, has written "I >> propose you trust us that we use Free Software always and that this is >>

Re: Public Money Public Code: a good policy for FSFE and other non-profits?

On 15/06/18 09:11, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Hi, Carsten! > > Am 2018-06-14 um 12:06 schrieb Carsten Agger: >> I'd limit the scope as such: >> >> * We're talking of the software used by *the association* as part of its >> *operations*, i.e. not about the personal choices of employees or >>

Re: Public Money Public Code: a good policy for FSFE and other non-profits?

On 15/06/18 10:49, Alessandro Rubini wrote: >> To give Daniel credit, he did state that the text might be improved. > > The text (the way it is worded), not the proposal. Exact wording again: > >If you can see something wrong with the text of the motion, please >help me improve it so

the questions you really want FSFE to answer

Hi all, As the last[1] man standing for democracy in FSFE, I propose to give a report at the community meeting[2] at RMLL It is important for me to understand the topics you want me to cover as so many things have happened in free software and in FSFE in recent times. Some of the things

Re: the questions you really want FSFE to answer

On 14/06/18 21:58, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > Daniel Pocock writes: >> As the last[1] man standing for democracy in FSFE > > Perhaps this is meant as a joke, but you usually do not make that clear > in your writing, so I am assuming it is seri

Re: the questions you really want FSFE to answer

On 14/06/18 21:57, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Hi, all! > > Just to avoid misunderstandings: > > Am 2018-06-14 um 21:33 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> As the last[1] man standing for democracy in FSFE,[...] >> >> 1. https://fsfe.org/news/2018/news-20180526-01.en.html

Re: the questions you really want FSFE to answer

On 14/06/18 23:48, Alessandro Rubini wrote: > I try to post no more than once a day, for several reasons, but this is > otrageous. > >> Some people may have chosen not to attend the meeting so that it >> wouldn't achieve quorum. > > Such people may be polite enough to state that clearly in

Re: the questions you really want FSFE to answer

On 15/06/18 00:13, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Dear Daniel, > > On ĵaŭ, 2018-06-14 at 22:37 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> This statement could create the impression that Daniel Pocock was the >>> one vote against the simplification of the member

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 18/01/18 13:10, Carsten Agger wrote: > > > On 01/18/2018 12:45 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> If an organization like FSFE wants to know that the software, >> dependencies and build tools are all really free software then the >> "shortcut" to take is

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

On 17/01/18 18:20, André Ockers wrote: > Dear Daniel and list, > > Op woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:56:21 schreef Daniel Pocock: >> Nasty things like Doodle, Meetup and Facebook keep popping up throughout >> FSFE and the wider free software community. Even when we discuss th

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

booth or talk at either of those events? Kamailio World CFP closes 10 February. On 17/01/18 08:33, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 16/01/18 16:29, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: >> I don't know if packaging the JS into Debian would be enough. If I >> recall correctly, Discourse d

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 16/01/18 16:29, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > I don't know if packaging the JS into Debian would be enough. If I > recall correctly, Discourse depends on client-side JS, so the issues are > more immediate in the client-side where the client is the one more > vulnerable. > > There are other

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 15/01/18 20:45, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > What about upgrading to new Mailman version? > > If I recall correctly, it has forum-like functions and keeps the mailing > list functions too. > > Discourse is somewhat overwork as we would have to patch various parts > of it to either remove

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 18/01/18 10:38, Mirko Boehm wrote: > Hello, > >> On 18. Jan 2018, at 10:28, Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro >> <mailto:dan...@pocock.pro>> wrote: >> >>> The client-side Javascript to me is not a >>> relevant issue anymore since

impact of Gmail's "promotions" tab on free software communities

There was a discussion in one community recently about essential emails not reaching new contributors because they get stuck in the Gmail "promotions" tab. This is quite concerning, for example, when Debian sends out the yearly announcement for DebConf travel grants / bursaries, if only the

Re: impact of Gmail's "promotions" tab on free software communities

On 25/01/18 13:38, Mat Witts wrote: > It doesn't seem to me to be a great strategy to single out gmail when > Microsoft's hotmail/live/outlook mailservers regularly fail to notify > recipients that they have not delivered mail under the rule that > 'Deliverability to Outlook.com is based on your

our future relationship with FSFE (public discussion)

(This was sent to each member of the FSFE community, I'm re-posting it here for those who would like to discuss it publicly or those who don't receive it due to filtering problems. Apologies to those who receive it twice) Dear FSFE Community, I'm writing to you today as one of your elected

Re: who is a member?

On 02/02/18 17:48, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > As far as I remember, the form said "Join the Fellowship" and explained that > this was a financial contribution. If you go to https://fsfe.org and click "Become a supporter" it still shows the same form with the title "Join the FSFE" The

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 29/01/18 09:41, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Le 28/01/2018 à 13:00, Andreas Nilsson a écrit : >> Just my two cents. > > Hi, telle me where is the paradise you're living in You can simultaneously solve your problems with public transport and finding a date by purchasing a motorbike. Sadly,

Re: Apply for membership and meet us at FOSDEM

On 01/02/18 20:14, Max Mehl wrote: > Disclaimer: I am an FSFE employee. > > # Daniel Pocock [2018-02-01 18:16 +0100]: >> On 01/02/18 17:16, Florian Snow wrote: >>> Werner Koch <w...@gnupg.org> writes: >>>> I personally see a lot of problems that employe

Re: Apply for membership and meet us at FOSDEM

On 01/02/18 17:16, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Werner, > > > Werner Koch writes: >> I personally see a lot of problems that employees of the FSFE are also >> members _and_ that they make up a large part of the membership. > Would you care to elaborate a little bit on this point? I

Re: Apply for membership now!

On 31/01/18 23:39, Cornelia S. wrote: > I have learnt the FSFE is abolishing their community representatives in > their board (remember the Linux Foundation?) > You should apply to become voting member of the FSFE, to change this. > All you need an e-mail to m...@fsfe.org

Re: Apply for membership and meet us at FOSDEM

On 05/02/18 13:09, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > > Carsten Agger writes: >> Of course Google could not have a voice in the GA - they're a >> proprietary software company and by definition are not committed to >> the values of free software. > To make this clear: I am

Re: subdomains for testing things

On 08/02/18 17:51, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> writes: >> How does using a domain with the word "test" in it somewhere create more >> work? > > At some point, a service is at least supposed to go into

Re: forums, mailing lists and other tools

On 23/01/18 21:24, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Stephane, > > > Stephane Ascoet <stephane.asc...@univ-paris1.fr> writes: >> Le 29/01/2018 à 09:53, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >>> You can simultaneously solve your problems with public transport and >>> finding

Re: subdomains for testing things (was: forums, mailing lists and other tools)

On 08/02/18 08:27, Max Mehl wrote: > # hellekin [2018-02-01 11:05 +0100]: >> On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 07:26:42AM +0100, Florian Snow wrote: >>> >>> This may have been mentioned before, but there is a Discourse instance >>> at community.fsfe.org. >> >> Hmmm, no there is not, only a broken page.

Re: free/open technology for home heating systems

On 22/01/18 12:59, David Rabel wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I'm not sure if I understand perfectly what you are looking for. > > I know there is (was?) a group called osdomotics, mainly from austria, > aiming to push forward home automation solutions built on free/open > technology.

Re: Apply for membership and meet us at FOSDEM

On 05/02/18 18:01, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Hi, > > Am 2018-02-05 um 14:58 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> - the German laws for non-profits (this was mentioned on another list) >> allow donors to specify that their donation or ongoing contributions be >> used for capit

Re: subdomains for testing things

On 08/02/18 11:02, Max Mehl wrote: > # Daniel Pocock [2018-02-08 11:00 +0100]: >> There is a distinction between people volunteering to maintain a service >> and the association choosing to rely on a service. >> >> This is particularly important in cases where two servi

seeking co-mentors for GSoC projects

Hi all, I've listed a number of projects[1] for GSoC this year under Debian. Most involve Python, some are Mozilla extensions (JavaScript) Several of them involve themes discussed in FSFE recently, for example, developing a social calendar or extending a browser plugin to help people with

application for FSFE e.V. membership and resignation

Hi Matthias, I am writing to you directly, with CC to the FSFE community, as this is the procedure for membership described[1] in the constitution of FSFE e.V. I understand that previous Fellowship representatives have written to you privately on this basis and been granted FSFE e.V. membership

Re: please be excellent to each other (Re: application for FSFE e.V. membership and resignation)

n drag us out of that by resigning.  Trying to shift the blame onto me won't make any difference.  I have felt bad about this organization ever since I saw that motion in the notice of meeting.  Any way you look at it, it is bullying and abusive behaviour. > > On 27.08.2018 13:19, Daniel Pocock w

urgent: call for observers and community presence at annual meeting

Hi everybody, As the elections have been cancelled[1] and the fellows will not be able to elect a new representative to attend the annual meeting this year, I would like to raise the possibility that we make the meeting more open than previous meetings, by having observers who can participate

Re: urgent: call for observers and community presence at annual meeting

On 18/07/18 18:48, André Ockers wrote: > Dear Daniel and list, > > On 17-07-18 09:54, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Note that people can also send requests[3] directly to the president, >> m...@fsfe.org asking to become provisional member > What are the obligations for members? &

Re: who has time for the GA?

On 30/08/18 14:49, Nikos Roussos wrote: >> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual >> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide >> regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either >> they don't run for re-election or the

Re: what makes a good president and chairperson?

On 04/09/18 10:06, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag 03 September 2018 22:12:28 schrieb Stefan Uygur: >> Pretty much it >> Can't say l disagree. > > thanks for quoting the HTML email. > Can you say to which you agree with in particular? > Carsten's statement that we believes

Re: what makes a good president and chairperson?

On 04/09/18 09:54, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Am Montag 03 September 2018 19:04:25 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> The ideal president or chairperson needs to be somebody who can unite >> staff, volunteers, fellows, supporters, donors and external parties.  To &g

Re: Nacht der langen Messer on discussion@ (Re: what makes a good president and chairperson?)

On 05/09/18 08:42, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Am Dienstag 04 September 2018 23:22:33 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> are you trying to change/misrepresent the intention of >> somebody else's email? > > please read the exchange again and look at the quotes,

Re: using abuse to avoid serious issues on discussion@ (Re: what makes a good president and chairperson?)

Bernhard, A private message sent to the GA list just yesterday contradicts what you said. Would you like to republish all the GA mails in public or would you prefer to simply acknowledge you were wrong and withdraw everything you said? What is really sinister about your attack on me is that

Re: selective censorship (aka some words from your list-admins)

On 05/09/18 16:49, Erik Albers wrote: > The list administration would like to help bring back a good tone and > discussion culture by moderating the discussion if necessary and for now we > set new subscriptions to the list on moderation. > The most offensive accusations made on the list today

Re: please be excellent to each other (Re: application for FSFE e.V. membership and resignati)

On 29/08/18 15:46, Max Mehl wrote: > # Erik Albers [2018-08-29 11:22 +0200]: >> 3) most important: the vast majority of the FSFE members voted for another >>motion. A motion to keep you in office for the whole 2 year-term! >> >> Everybody can read this in the offical minutes: >> >> "The

Re: application for FSFE e.V. membership and resignation

On 28/08/18 09:01, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I have been watching your rants on FSFE list and in other places for > a significant amount of time. Like others, I do believe your intentions > are good, but your tone and behaviour is not constructive at all. > Actually, I think you're

Re: minimizing people's views (was: Merchandise production)

the president's resignation. > focus on the one item that falls in my responsibility as the former > financial officer: > > Am 2018-08-27 um 13:19 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> People are asking how FSFE e.V. can raise[5] almost EUR 650,000 in one >> year and spend barely EUR 37,

Re: who has time for the GA?

On 29/08/18 10:22, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Am 2018-08-29 um 11:05 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> If you don't have time to meet people personally, it is inevitable there >> will be some misunderstandings in electronic communications, especially >> for those trying to sq

improving the tone of discussion in FSFE

Hi all, I've been in discussion with a few people trying to troubleshoot the root cause of problems in recent discussions. From my perspective, there are a couple of things that have really undermined my confidence in the community and keep things at a frosty level. The way that Matthias has

Re: transparency about the fellowship

On 10/07/18 09:19, Michael Kesper wrote: > If you make your last will with a (for you, at least) substantial Why do some people in this community thrive on personal put-downs and insults? When people make attacks like this on a representative it usually means they are avoiding real answers.

Re: transparency about the fellowship

On 09/07/18 21:31, Reinhard Müller wrote: > Dear all, > > Am 2018-07-09 um 20:57 schrieb Daniel Pocock: >> A single fellow also made a bequest of EUR 150,000 to FSFE and they were >> not identified publicly. > > Correction: We recieved a large sum out of an inher

transparency about the fellowship

Hi everybody, In the blog about fellowship elections being cancelled[1], the fellowship has been likened to a corporate donor. A similar comparison was made in the invitation to the extraordinary general assembly. On the transparency page[2], there is a link to donor information[3] where FSFE

minutes from Extraordinary General Meeting on 26 May 2018?

Hi Matthias, Can you please make sure the minutes of the EGM are available on the minutes page[1] of the web site? Some people have asked questions about this and I think it is important that people have this information available at the community meeting. Regards, Daniel 1.

breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

Hi all, Habits are a tough thing to break, this is obvious if you know a smoker. I've heard many anecdotes about habits but I never really understood any of the psychology or neuroscience about habits until I recently read the book "The Power of Habit" by Charles Duhigg (Random House, 2013)

forums, mailing lists and other tools

One issue arising out of the Swisslinux/GULL situation is the question of communication tools. Swisslinux has been operating with a forum while GULL was using a mailing list.  Representatives from both groups are now talking about how to join forces and merge these communities. I've also

model for local groups

We've received a lot of positive responses to an email sent to community members in Suisse Romande recently. Unlike big metropolitan areas like Berlin, the population of Suisse Romande and the FSFE community there is divided between many smaller cities like Geneva, Lausanne, Fribourg and

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