good luck, withdrawing from the list

the corruption at the fsf is worse than ever. its not olivas fault. he was just too optimistic. so was i. the events of sept 23 are repeating, and signal the next chapter of the coup in terms of their tactics against free speech, journalism and transparency. things are not getting better,

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> I agree. He is exposing the problems in FSF also. I wonder why the board of > FSF cannot act against this censorship against Oliva at LP 2020. because the board isnt in charge of libreplanet. apart from his explanation this week that the fsf has substantial autonomy from the board, he has

coup at fsf finally exposed from people inside the fsf

vp oliva on the board of directors: "since I joined the FSF board, and quite possibly before that, **the FSF board never made any decision to distance the FSF from Richard, to criticize him, or to celebrate his departure. Quite the opposite**, if you look carefully at statements issued by the

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> What is wrong with my FSFLA colleages? If there is something wrong, I am in > the position to correct it because I am on the Board. im afraid you have me wrong again, there is nothing that i know of that is wrong with your colleagues. on the contrary, i would rather give money to fsfla than

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> If it was not clear. I wrote this in relation to sorry, that was my misunderstanding. thanks for clarifying. > I am asking you to tell me why you think what you do. You are asking me to trust you. Why don't you trust me? its not simply a matter of trust. its a matter of you picking one line

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> By the way, you forgot to include, John Sullivan, FSF VP and > ExecutiveDirector > here:http://techrights.org/2020/02/23/pushing-out-the-founder/ im still not roy schestowitz. he made that graphic. i agree with you (quite strongly) about sullivan. no respect for the guy.

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> Hi Dr. Schestowitz: > I too felt from September 2019 that Microsoft ( and others) were behind the (ongoing) attack on RMS. I've been saying that they've been putting up RedHat to front for them because RedHat has been the poster child of OpenSource.  Can you point me to the relevant article(s)

GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> That is as valuable as dust in the desert. yknow quiliro, its getting a bit annoying now. when i warned people that stallman was going to be ousted over matters of political correctness, i didnt have this much knee-jerk naysaying to deal with. i was right, wasnt i? i was right about red hat.

nonfreeplanet quietly censors fsf VP b/c he MIGHT defend rms

http://techrights.org/2020/02/22/fsf-cancel-culture/ > I’m told by people in the know that my speech was selected, but that there > was concern I might speak in favor of the canceled person instead of the > proposed topic http://techrights.org/2020/02/23/being-cancelled/ > I was painted

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

i would add, caleb, that you certainly missed the point. for fucks sake, i think the linux kernel is better (for most purposes.) i think you might not be aware of the number of predictions about free software in the past year or two that have already come true. or you dont care-- but thats not

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> > This article was nothing but fear, uncertainty and doubt intellectual cowardice. you cited nothing-- you said nothing. whats more, this sort of lazy, one-line pooh-poohing of an entire article that cant bother to muster up ONE little example is typical of open source trolls. i do not

Re: GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> Why do you say "Trisquel, what an absolute P-A-R-O-D-Y of its own mission it > is now" ? partly due to ted being a fictional alter ego, and mostly due to political differences around systemd. i happen to think its the single worst thing that has happened to gnu/linux, though not the worst

GNU/Linux is just Linux now?

> People don’t really care about a kernel vs an OS, and it’s easy to qualify what I’m talking about as I’m pretty much always talking about Red Hat Enterprise Linux or Ubuntu. thats from someone who signed a petition to oust stallman from the gnu project, after stallman was already ousted from

re: three people still trying to takeover the gnu project, make it open source

> What do you (freemedia) and Jean Louis (I like his newer more positive > attitude) > propose we do to avoid this takeover? you know i wrote a book about that? 29 days before stallman was ousted. im happy to reiterate all of it but im repeating myself from time to time. which is

fsfe still doing valentines

> It adds to the perception of cult phenomena in some Free > Softwareorganizations. Cults often try to make their practices supersede > normaltraditions. while i might agree with you that the fsfe is acting (increasingly) like a cult, im not sure this is one of the reasons i would think so.

three people still trying to takeover the gnu project, make it open source

ludovic courtes, andreas enge and andy wingo https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ (old link) continue to try their hostile takeover of the #gnu project via a social contract? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2020-01/msg00063.html (relatively

is it time for Matthias Kirschner to resign?

sure it is. john sullivan too. but it wouldnt be time for them to resign, if people did things solely based on what should be done. they wouldnt be who they are if they cared about the best course of action. which means we are talking about convincing the board. now, how do you intend to do

The best support for RMS is to practice his values

> I do not think that anyone should go by another person's values exactly. But > if someone supports a proposal, there must be a general congruence between > their words and actions. i agree with this _ > If I say I support Stallman, I would never use the words "open source" unless > it is

Transitioning fsfellowship.eu infrastructure

garfield_t_cat at protonmail.com wrote:> Real garfield doesn't support dictators. although there are certainly larger issues at stake here, saying the real garfield doesnt support dictators is debatable. garfield routinely tried to mail nermal to the united arab emirates, a royal dictatorship.

Re: remembering lucy wayland (debian.community, tuxmachines)

for me, the ESSENCE (rather than the definition, which is well-established) of free software is having the goals of: making it so all software is free. this is a stated goal of free software. 2. and by extension, liberating software that isnt free. this is not always necessary, but i think it

remembering lucy wayland (debian.community, tuxmachines)

> They produce much software > which benefits activists. But they hurt the free software message by > justifying nonfree software use. tough call. without debian i think we (free software) would be a decade behind, by my estimation. with debian over the past 5 years, we are nearly 5 years

remembering lucy wayland (debian.community, tuxmachines)

"Out of respect for Wayland's family, Debian needs to unilaterally acknowledge something went wrong at Christmas 2018 and furthermore, distance itself from the preaching of Molly de Blanc and other amateur-hour enforcers." https://debian.community/remembering-lucy-wayland/

Re: feedback on the FSFellowship stickers?

> The third one implies a submission to an arbitrary authority. i keep trying to figure out what you mean here. i dont think the fsfe fellowship was arbitrary, it simply meant that an organisation had a constitution where members could had input on where their donations went. i dont think

free silicon foundation, ar.al balkan protests fsfe+google, sfc+google funding

https://mastodon.f-si.org/@fsi/103551849507594630 Aral Balkan @a...@mastodon.ar.al @fsi This is an important, timely, and well phrased report and the framing of temporarily-open licenses vs forever-open licenses is brilliant.  

List of organizations that support Stallman's of freedom

> Nice to have someone that backs this idea. :-) likewise. _ > If this list is so broad of criteria, why not add Open Source Initiative to it. the list is: > The Free Software Federation is a DE FACTO group of organisations and > institutions that advocate for free software. open source

Re: more debian censorship: debian-project list

> I agree that this "gutter nazi" (excellent choice of phrase) ought to be shut > down. well, damn. to be honest, your suggestion IS a very common one among fans of censorship-- and it was extremely unlikely in my opinion/experience that you would respond as you did. but i knew it was a

more debian censorship: debian-project list

https://debian.community/debconf20-palestine-messages-censored-debian-project/ found via tuxmachines: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133356 "On 20 December 2019, a Debian Developer posted the message below to the debian-project mailing list, offering to give the same talk at both DebConf20

List of organizations that support Stallman's of freedom

> List of organizations that support Stallman's of freedom good question. i would start here: https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/pipermail/discussion/2020-January/000688.html (the free software movement as revealed by a small meteor) there is this list of free software organisations.

Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4

> > Whom do you see as "rogue elements" of the FSF?> The quote was taken from > > me> The quote was written in reference to the way FSF and FSFE > > censoredtheir mailing lists:> - FSFE censored messages from the Fellowship > > representative elected bythe community> - FSF censored messages in

Re: this used to be a place you could get answers

> If you want answers, observe what has given answers before and close your > ears to the noise. Going forward requires a lot of energy which could be > drained if you are looking away from your objectives. indeed. > I like this mailing list despite the fights because it has something which

Re: this used to be a place you could get answers

aristocrap said: > Because this is a shit place buried in shit like your shit. yes, and your trolling is so high-quality. have a biscuit. ... > The overwhelming feedback I get is that people are quitting FSFE and > after the RMS lynching, people are quitting FSF too. im certain that was the

this used to be a place you could get answers

every day i check this mailing list. posts do not get replied to. certainly i dont expect every email to be replied to, but the point of this list, i thought, i was to maintain the fellowship programme. how is it the list has gone from so many posts to so few? how come nobody is talking about

re: submissions needed (was: Fwd: 25th session of the Working Group on Business and Human Rights and call for inputs)

i wont have anything in time for this, but ill pass the relevant information along to anybody i know who might. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion

since google bought fsfe, at least they have no ties to microsoft

oh, no: https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2020/01/16/dynatrace-google-microsoft Dynatrace, Google and Microsoft collaborate to help make OpenTelemetry enterprise-grade Software intelligence company, Dynatrace, announced it is

toms open letter to rms (written today)

tomgrz - 9 minutes ago #freesoftware An open letter of concern about Free Software and the Free Software movement Dear Richard, This is a open letter of concern about Free Software and the Free Software movement, which a number of people share. It’s about a loss of freedom in the Free

open letter to matt lee (oct 2019)

i think the free software fellowship could benefit from this letter more than matt will. when i wrote it to matt, it was with low expectations. i doubt the fellowship will make complete use of this advice, and thats not the point. it aligns (i think) with some things daniel said last year,