Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-28 Thread Chris Buechler
Bennett wrote: This answers one of my biggest questions about the fork. I've been fixated on the package system (though my previous mention of it was brief), thinking it was a solution for both projects. I had envisioned moving everything that isn't a core feature into an optional module.

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-28 Thread Jim Thompson
Chris Buechler wrote: Bennett wrote: Perhaps I should troll the m0n0wall list... :) go for it. You'd still get me replying to your messages, with the same stuff mostly. :) Chris won't be the only one, either. :-) But it'll never change to be a full blown hard drive install, and

[pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Bennett
I've been looking for an open source firewall. I found m0n0wall, IPCop, and few others. I thought m0n0wall was great, but then I came across pfSense, and it was even better, picking up where m0n0wall left off. However, this fork of m0n0wall is a bit unnerving. Yes, I know you have radically

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Jim Thompson
Bennett wrote: I've been looking for an open source firewall. I found m0n0wall, IPCop, and few others. I thought m0n0wall was great, but then I came across pfSense, and it was even better, picking up where m0n0wall left off. However, this fork of m0n0wall is a bit unnerving. Yes, I know

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Colin Smith
* Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-27 01:58:17 -0600]: However, this fork of m0n0wall is a bit unnerving. Yes, I know you have radically different goals, but you also have similar goals and will face similar issues. This fork detracts from BOTH projects because you've effectively cut the

RE: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread alan walters
and the utilizations are very different. Just my two cents worth. -Original Message- From: Colin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 4:32 PM To: discussion@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall * Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-27 01:58

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Bill Marquette
On 11/27/05, Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking for an open source firewall. I found m0n0wall, IPCop, and few others. I thought m0n0wall was great, but then I came across pfSense, and it was even better, picking up where m0n0wall left off. I think you just summarized the fork

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Scott Ullrich
On 11/27/05, Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Email address created just to troll us. I already see issues. I've been looking for an open source firewall. I found m0n0wall, IPCop, and few others. I thought m0n0wall was great, but then I came across pfSense, and it was even better, picking

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Chris Buechler
Colin Smith wrote: Also, it is my understanding that Scott and Chris originally forked because of Manuel's (obvious) resistance to taking his project in an entirely new direction. Few if any bridges were burned. It most certainly was not an 'ego thing'. I won't bother responding to

Re: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Lists
plainly said if you unforked pfSense and M0n0wall you would essentially not have alot of what both offer because then they would not be reaching such diverse goals, both projects are good, and have solidbasis to exists, its like saying unfork BSD... theres a purpose for them to exists, and other

RE: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Bennett
First off, let me apologize if I was too offensive. I wasn't trolling--that was my imagination playing devil's advocate, and meant to be rhetorical. As I am beginning to understand the fork, these wild ideas have no justification (well, maybe one or two still do...). :) Chris Buechler wrote:

RE: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Espen Johansen
2005 08:58 To: discussion@pfsense.com Subject: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall I've been looking for an open source firewall. I found m0n0wall, IPCop, and few others. I thought m0n0wall was great, but then I came across pfSense, and it was even better, picking up where m0n0wall left off

RE: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Bennett
Bill Marquette wrote: I've got a better idea. After all you've said, why are you choosing pfSense over m0n0? What have we done right that's made you want to choose pfSense over m0n0? I assume we've done _something_ right for you to choose an alpha project over a released product.

RE: [pfSense-discussion] Unfork m0n0wall

2005-11-27 Thread Bennett
Espen Johansen wrote: I think you need to read thru the code. ... If you read thru the code you would know this by now. Surely you're joking. Are you saying anyone who has questions about m0n0wall or pfSense should just read the code instead asking questions to the people who actually wrote