Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
On 22/01/18 12:59, David Rabel wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I'm not sure if I understand perfectly what you are looking for. > > I know there is (was?) a group called osdomotics, mainly from austria, > aiming to push forward home automation solutions built on free/open > technology. http://osdwiki.open-entry.com/doku.php/:en:start > > We built a heating control based on free components, you may want to > have a look at it: https://noresoft.com/heating_control_en.html > Unfortunately it never got further than that prototype. > Thanks for that feedback Do solutions like this work with any boiler, or is it necessary to select a boiler with a specific interface to support such devices? I looked at several of the links in replies on this thread and couldn't find any recommendations for choosing a boiler or checking compatibility. Regards, Daniel ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
On 22/01/2018 15:49, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: > ... > in my home (Italy) I have a central heating system and each radiator is > controlled by a manual valve, I'm still searching a way to interface a > controller (i.e. home-assistant) whith **free software** remotely controlled > radiator valves; this is an example of the current results: > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=home+assistant+radiator+valve&t=ffsb&ia=web with a student of mine I have developed a free (GPLed) shell library to drive BLE valves: http://sl-lab.it/dokuwiki/doku.php/tesi:reveng-termovalvole (description in italian, sorry) -- /\___ /--\ndrea |rentini (http://atrent.it) . Software Libero - Dipartimento di Informatica ..: Università degli Studi di Milano [il file "signature.asc" (firma gpg) potrebbe non essere compreso dal vostro sistema] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
There's the UK-based OpenTRV (Thermostatic Radiator Valve). https://twitter.com/OpenTRV http://opentrv.org.uk Their mailing list has gone quiet so I don't know current status (they have working prototypes) but the product is open source control for individual radiators (the valve) with a central hub. "On the radiators, you screw on a thermostatic radiator valve (TRV) that can be switched on and off by radio. The OpenTRV control unit is a separate small box with just a couple of buttons and a single LED. It senses the temperature and whether anyone is in the room and if it decides or is instructed to heat up the room, signals the TRV on the radiator to open up. There is another OpenTRV unit attached to the boiler and when that unit hears the call from an OpenTRV unit to its radiator, switches on the boiler to provide hot water." http://opentrv.org.uk/what-is-opentrv/ Probably not grant-approval ready but not vapourware and seem approachable from past on mailing list. -- Chris H This message unsigned, sent through webmail. On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, at 11:59 AM, David Rabel wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I'm not sure if I understand perfectly what you are looking for. > > I know there is (was?) a group called osdomotics, mainly from austria, > aiming to push forward home automation solutions built on free/open > technology. http://osdwiki.open-entry.com/doku.php/:en:start > > We built a heating control based on free components, you may want to > have a look at it: https://noresoft.com/heating_control_en.html > Unfortunately it never got further than that prototype. > > Yours > David > > > On 22.01.2018 10:20, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > There are government grants in Ireland for heating controls, I put more > > details on my blog[1]. > > > > Is anybody aware of technology for this purpose that is running free > > software and interfaces with free/open standards? > > > > Can this be achieved using a custom solution with Raspberry Pi or > > similar devices running free software? > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel > > > > > > 1. https://danielpocock.com/keeping-an-irish-home-warm-and-free > > ___ > > Discussion mailing list > > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > > > > ___ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > Email had 1 attachment: > + signature.asc > 1k (application/pgp-signature) ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
Hi Daniel, OpenHAB (http://www.openhab.org/) could be a candidate? There is also a distro running on a Raspberry PI (https://docs.openhab.org/installation/openhabian.html) but it's supported on many other distros. Davide Il 22/01/2018 10:20, Daniel Pocock ha scritto: > There are government grants in Ireland for heating controls, I put more > details on my blog[1]. > > Is anybody aware of technology for this purpose that is running free > software and interfaces with free/open standards? > > Can this be achieved using a custom solution with Raspberry Pi or > similar devices running free software? > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > 1. https://danielpocock.com/keeping-an-irish-home-warm-and-free > ___ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
There's the UK-based OpenTRV (Thermostatic Radiator Valve). https://twitter.com/OpenTRV http://opentrv.org.uk Their mailing list has gone quiet so I don't know current status (they have working prototypes) but the product is open source control for individual radiators (the valve) with a central hub. "On the radiators, you screw on a thermostatic radiator valve (TRV) that can be switched on and off by radio. The OpenTRV control unit is a separate small box with just a couple of buttons and a single LED. It senses the temperature and whether anyone is in the room and if it decides or is instructed to heat up the room, signals the TRV on the radiator to open up. There is another OpenTRV unit attached to the boiler and when that unit hears the call from an OpenTRV unit to its radiator, switches on the boiler to provide hot water." http://opentrv.org.uk/what-is-opentrv/ Probably not grant-approval ready but not vapourware and seem approachable from past on mailing list. -- Chris H This message unsigned, sent through webmail. On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, at 11:59 AM, David Rabel wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I'm not sure if I understand perfectly what you are looking for. > > I know there is (was?) a group called osdomotics, mainly from austria, > aiming to push forward home automation solutions built on free/open > technology. http://osdwiki.open-entry.com/doku.php/:en:start > > We built a heating control based on free components, you may want to > have a look at it: https://noresoft.com/heating_control_en.html > Unfortunately it never got further than that prototype. > > Yours > David > > > On 22.01.2018 10:20, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > There are government grants in Ireland for heating controls, I put more > > details on my blog[1]. > > > > Is anybody aware of technology for this purpose that is running free > > software and interfaces with free/open standards? > > > > Can this be achieved using a custom solution with Raspberry Pi or > > similar devices running free software? > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel > > > > > > 1. https://danielpocock.com/keeping-an-irish-home-warm-and-free > > ___ > > Discussion mailing list > > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > > > > ___ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > Email had 1 attachment: > + signature.asc > 1k (application/pgp-signature) ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
Hi Daniel, * Daniel Pocock [2018-01-22 10:20:35 +0100]: There are government grants in Ireland for heating controls, I put more details on my blog[1]. I read you blog post and the Heating Controls Grant page https://www.seai.ie/grants/home-grants/better-energy-homes/heating-upgrade-grants/ good luck for your grant! Is anybody aware of technology for this purpose that is running free software and interfaces with free/open standards? ouch! standards in home automation... good luck :-S I'm definitely not an expert in this matter but I'm hacking since 2016 in my spare time home automation systems are composed by a controller and a set of sensors/actuators, I want a _full_stack_free_sofware_ solution in my home, including actuators and sensors an interesting source of info is https://www.mysensors.org/, see https://www.mysensors.org/about/components for an introduction on the infrastructure unfortunately many actuators/sensors comes with proprietary software installed and no way to replace it with a free one https://home-assistant.io/ is one of the major free software home automation controllers and is able to interface to **a lot** of components (sensors and actuators) on the market: https://home-assistant.io/components/, climate including https://home-assistant.io/components/#climate one of the components is the Generic Thermostat https://home-assistant.io/components/climate.generic_thermostat/ you could use to tunr on/off your zone heating system based on the temperature reported from a sensor from the same zone... this obviously works only if you have one heating system for each zone (rare case, I guess) in my home (Italy) I have a central heating system and each radiator is controlled by a manual valve, I'm still searching a way to interface a controller (i.e. home-assistant) whith **free software** remotely controlled radiator valves; this is an example of the current results: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=home+assistant+radiator+valve&t=ffsb&ia=web Can this be achieved using a custom solution with Raspberry Pi or similar devices running free software? the problem is the "devices" (aka actuators, like radiator valves for example) part of the infrastructure: I'm not aware of a free software operated one ciao Giovanni 1. https://danielpocock.com/keeping-an-irish-home-warm-and-free -- Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera - IT infrastructures http://xelera.eu/contact-us/ **per favore** Quota Bene: http://wiki.news.nic.it/QuotarBene **please** use Inline Reply: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
Re: free/open technology for home heating systems
Hi Daniel, I'm not sure if I understand perfectly what you are looking for. I know there is (was?) a group called osdomotics, mainly from austria, aiming to push forward home automation solutions built on free/open technology. http://osdwiki.open-entry.com/doku.php/:en:start We built a heating control based on free components, you may want to have a look at it: https://noresoft.com/heating_control_en.html Unfortunately it never got further than that prototype. Yours David On 22.01.2018 10:20, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > There are government grants in Ireland for heating controls, I put more > details on my blog[1]. > > Is anybody aware of technology for this purpose that is running free > software and interfaces with free/open standards? > > Can this be achieved using a custom solution with Raspberry Pi or > similar devices running free software? > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > 1. https://danielpocock.com/keeping-an-irish-home-warm-and-free > ___ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfe.org > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
