[Distutils] sh execution of setuptools egg not working

2010-10-28 Thread Stephen Waterbury
I'll probably realize what stupid thing I'm doing as soon as I send this message, but oh well if that's what it takes ... ;) I want to install setuptools on a centos 4.3 system, for which the system python is 2.4 (ugh) so I've compiled and installed python 2.6 into /usr/local. When I try

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-08 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Barry Warsaw wrote: I wish there was a humorous, ironic name for the service that is evocative of the Python language's original conceit. Something that at first glance says we should have lots of tasty morsels to offer here, then oh, sorry, the cat's eaten them. The irony of course being that

Re: [Distutils] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Brad Allen wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:40 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: As for projects: fine with me; PyPI would then be the Python Project Index. +1 If this gets general agreement, there are probably some places where the word 'package' should be replaced with the word

Re: [Distutils] Python people want CPAN and how the latter came about

2009-12-26 Thread Stephen Waterbury
sstein...@gmail.com wrote: I think that splitting package storage and pointers to off-repository storage (for those who don't upload to PyPI) metadata about the stored packages tools for creating stored packages tools for retrieving stored packages

Re: [Distutils] version scheme: a case for dropping .devNNN and .postNNN

2009-06-11 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Trent Mick wrote: I've been thinking from the p.o.v. of what releases get up on PyPI and I gather that those releases are the ones that lead to potential packaging in RPM and .deb repositories. I think that is not necessarily true -- I seem to recall some discussion in the PyCon sessions

Re: [Distutils] Side by side debug/non-debug eggs

2009-05-22 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2009 11:33:54 -0400, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 09:45 AM 5/22/2009 -0400, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: Hello all, Prior to eggs, if I wanted to have debug and non-debug versions of an extension module available, I could build and install

Re: [Distutils] Python Packaging Survey -- question 8 not well-formulated

2009-03-09 Thread Stephen Waterbury
(And now for a comment that's not about the site certificate! :) Question 8 provides 5 options, none of which apply to me, and no option to comment without choosing one. Question 7 does the right thing by providing an option to give another answer in the comment field. I will wait until that

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 09:41:08PM -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote: These are all broken and you should report bugs on them. I have reported many for Ubuntu. A system application should only ever depend on the system Python (or interpreter), never on the whims

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 07:59:21AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 12, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote: I used to always set up my own Python[s] in /usr/local and put that first in my PATH, but I have gotten lazy lately, and sometimes it will bite me

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Barry Warsaw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 12, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote: I used to always set up my own Python[s] in /usr/local and put that first in my PATH, but I have gotten lazy lately, and sometimes it will bite me. ;) On Debian

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:16:57AM -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote: On Debian and derivatives (e.g. Ubuntu) you might have even more fun. They put /usr/local/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages on the sys.path *of the system python*! This means that you can break your system

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Stephen Waterbury wrote: Oops, my email client doesn't detect unbalanced parens -- typo here (what I get for too-complicated paren/double-dash-mixing ;): optionally install, and which go into /usr. And the system package manager -- e.g., apt on Debian/Ubuntu systems) would have all its usual

Re: [Distutils] shebang line modified by setuptools

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Greg Ewing wrote: Gael Varoquaux wrote: a second Python needs to be installed on top of the system Python to add modules to it. Maybe the system should come with two pythons installed, one for use by the system and the other for users to add things to. Or at least be set up so that it

Re: [Distutils] desirability of multiple, divergent Python instances

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Ben Finney wrote: Greg Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gael Varoquaux wrote: a second Python needs to be installed on top of the system Python to add modules to it. Maybe the system should come with two pythons installed, one for use by the system and the other for users to add things to.

Re: [Distutils] desirability of multiple, divergent Python instances

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Stephen Waterbury wrote: Have you read my proposal? It's in the message posted by me to this thread at 12:31 PM today. That's not a good way to reference it, of course, so here it is: Definitions: system Python -- the Python (and its site-pkgs, etc.) that any Python scripts used by the OS

Re: [Distutils] How we can get rid of eggs for 2.6 and beyond

2008-03-21 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Phillip J. Eby wrote: ... if tools exist and are distributed for such a [PEP 262] database, and *everybody* agrees to use it as an officially-blessed standard, then it should be possible for setuptools to co-exist with that framework, and we're all happy campers. I like this idea and the 3

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] We need to make a decision wrt distribution names

2007-07-24 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 01:09 PM 7/24/2007 -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote: Actually, I wasn't confused. :) I'd suggest a convention that allows a distribution title (e.g., Zope, Twisted, etc.) and a distribution name that would simply be the name of the distribution's top-level package

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] We need to make a decision wrt distribution names

2007-07-24 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 09:56 PM 7/24/2007 -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote: I thought the point was to come up with a new distribution naming convention, Nope, just clarify the rules for *distinguishing* projects by name -- a much less ambitious goal, since it's pretty easy to do