Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-14 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 10 June 2013 17:34, holger krekel wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:35 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On 10 June 2013 06:04, Alex Clark wrote: > >> > Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: > >> > > >> >> So yes. I broke Download counts

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 10 June 2013 17:34, holger krekel wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:35 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On 10 June 2013 06:04, Alex Clark wrote: >> > Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: >> > >> >> So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than >> >> people being able to

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-10 Thread holger krekel
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:35 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 10 June 2013 06:04, Alex Clark wrote: > > Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: > > > >> So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than > >> people being able to actually use PyPI to install from. > > > > > > FWIW

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 10 June 2013 06:04, Alex Clark wrote: > Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: > >> So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than >> people being able to actually use PyPI to install from. > > > FWIW: > > > You missed the moral of the story: when you make a decision like

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than > people being able to actually use PyPI to install from. I approve of this message. //Lennart ___ Distutils-SIG maillist

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On Jun 9, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Alex Clark wrote: > Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: > >> So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than >> people being able to actually use PyPI to install from. > > > FWIW: > > > You missed the moral of the story: when you make a de

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Alex Clark
Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes: > So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than > people being able to actually use PyPI to install from. FWIW: You missed the moral of the story: when you make a decision like this, someone will *always* disagree with you (even ov

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jun 9, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Alex Clark wrote: > > But: this happens all the time in open source communities, even > mature ones. Someone volunteers to perform some complex task and > hand-waves-away some requirement they don't personally feel is important > under the "too hard" or "I don't have t

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:20 AM, holger krekel wrote: >> There >> are many CDN providers out there and I suspect so far only Fastly was >> contacted. The primary responsibility of that coordinator is correctly >> sending the message for CDN provider that PyPI is a public exhibition of >> their service

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread holger krekel
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 01:57 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > > > > On May 30, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM, holger krekel wrote: > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-09 Thread Alex Clark
anatoly techtonik gmail.com> writes: > > > I'd say that not getting access to download stats from the start is a fail on the side of PSF or whoever involved in coordination with Fastly. There are many CDN providers out there and I suspect so far only Fastly was contacted. The primary responsibil

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-06-08 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On May 30, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM, holger krekel wrote: > > Hi Donald, > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: > > Hello! > > As you have have noticed the download co

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > Fastly has given us access to their streaming log support. > > Infrastructure will be setting up a secure method for receiving these logs > at which point PyPI can use them. Excellent! Awesomeness unfolds like a FantomenK beat! //Lennart __

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread Donald Stufft
On May 30, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM, holger krekel wrote: >> Hi Donald, >> >> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer >>> updating. Originally

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 08:08:35PM -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: > Hello! > > As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer updating. > Originally this was due to an issue with the script that processes these > download counts. However I have now removed the download counts fr

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM, holger krekel wrote: > Hi Donald, > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: >> Hello! >> >> As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer updating. >> Originally this was due to an issue with the script that processes these

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread Alex Clark
Hi, anatoly techtonik gmail.com> writes: > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Donald Stufft stufft.io> wrote: > > Hello! > > > As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer updating. Originally this was due to an issue with the script that processes these download count

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-30 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > Hello! > > As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer > updating. Originally this was due to an issue with the script that > processes these download counts. However I have now removed the download > counts from the P

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-28 Thread Domen Kožar
I'll also be at EP and can help to explain how Nix could solve the isolation problem. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:46 PM, holger krekel wrote: > Hi Florian, > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:36 +0200, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > > Hi Holger, > > > > holger krekel writes: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread holger krekel
Hi Florian, On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:36 +0200, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > Hi Holger, > > holger krekel writes: > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 17:41 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, holger krekel wrote: > >> > Not having download counts maybe lets us think harder a

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread holger krekel
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 13:39 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM, holger krekel wrote: > > Another more practical data point would be "does this package even > > install on win32/linux/osx py26/py27/py33" and even better, do its automated > > tests pass? > > Those are

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM, holger krekel wrote: > Another more practical data point would be "does this package even > install on win32/linux/osx py26/py27/py33" and even better, do its automated > tests pass? Those are interesting metrics, but doesn't indicate the packages popularity at al

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On May 27, 2013, at 12:27 AM, holger krekel wrote: > Hi Donald, > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: >> Hello! >> >> As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer updating. >> Originally this was due to an issue with the script that processes these

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread Florian Friesdorf
Hi Holger, holger krekel writes: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 17:41 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, holger krekel wrote: >> > Not having download counts maybe lets us think harder about >> > better metrics. The number of projects using a package as a dep >> > might

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread holger krekel
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 17:41 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, holger krekel wrote: > > Not having download counts maybe lets us think harder about > > better metrics. The number of projects using a package as a dep > > might be one. > > With the current downside bei

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, holger krekel wrote: > Not having download counts maybe lets us think harder about > better metrics. The number of projects using a package as a dep > might be one. With the current downside being that it's hard for PyPI to figure out that number, too :) Agreed

Re: [Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

2013-05-27 Thread holger krekel
Hi Donald, On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 20:08 -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: > Hello! > > As you have have noticed the download counts on PyPI are no longer updating. > Originally this was due to an issue with the script that processes these > download counts. However I have now removed the download co