Re: Auto-import support for models and other objects in shell

2012-08-28 Thread Phill Tornroth
Thanks all. This has been a helpful and enlightening glimpse into the values and priorities the Django project is stewarded with. I appreciate the time and attention. -Phill On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:53:26 PM UTC-7, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > I'm in complete agreement with Alex. -1 from

Re: Auto-import support for models and other objects in shell

2012-08-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
I'm in complete agreement with Alex. -1 from me. Explicit is better than implicit, and to my mind, hiding imports just complicates the learning curve associated with Django's package tree. If you *really* want this, there are hooks into ipython et al that can do this; I don't see it as something a

Re: Auto-import support for models and other objects in shell

2012-08-28 Thread Carl Meyer
Hi Phill, On 08/28/2012 03:51 PM, Phill Tornroth wrote: > 2. Are you also -1 on making it easier for projects like shell_plus to > add locals to the shell? What's happening right now is pretty > unfortunate. I can only see upside in an adjustment to the internal API > that doesn't make this kind o

Re: Auto-import support for models and other objects in shell

2012-08-28 Thread Phill Tornroth
Totally fair, couple of things: 1. For backward compatibility and the confusion you mentioned, I'd suggest this be not enabled by default. Let people who want the feature (the people who download shell_plus for instance) enable it. My pull request leaves it totally off by default, retaining cur

Re: Auto-import support for models and other objects in shell

2012-08-28 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Phill Tornroth wrote: > 'Ello. > > I'm gauging support for a tiny new feature, or at least a refactoring of > an internal API that will allow the feature to be developed without code > duplication. I'd like to stop typing import statements for all of my models > an