Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-10-01 Thread Daniel Greenfeld
On Sep 28, 3:07 am, Thomas Wanschik wrote: > On 28 Sep., 02:45, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: > We've started a supported/unsupported feature list on > djangopackages:http://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/cloud/ > > So please help in order to

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-28 Thread Thomas Wanschik
On 28 Sep., 02:45, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > So - the real goal is to ensure that you can use forms and generic > views with NoSQL stores, not to ensure that you take an app built > using a relational store, and deploy it on a NoSQL store. If that's the real goal

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, David P. Novakovic wrote: > This has probably been discussed at great length previously... but my > 2c follows: > > If you are using a column/doc store you are trying to solve a > different problem than if you are using an SQL db. > > How

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 07:22:11AM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > > > > I guess the test suite must not cover all the basees, making it a > > necessary but not sufficient criteria for inclusion? > > > > The problem

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:21:06PM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >>> >>> The number 4 wasn't actually the important bit - it

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread David P. Novakovic
This has probably been discussed at great length previously... but my 2c follows: If you are using a column/doc store you are trying to solve a different problem than if you are using an SQL db. How important is 100% interop? Surely it's about documenting the differences between them and

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:21:06PM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> >> The number 4 wasn't actually the important bit - it was that I want >> to see a range of noSQL approaches represented. I don't want to see >> 4

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-27 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:21:06PM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > The number 4 wasn't actually the important bit - it was that I want > to see a range of noSQL approaches represented. I don't want to see > 4 key-value stores; I want to see a key-value store, and a document > store, and a

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-26 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> Also, you say a "huge" amount of analysis -- at the moment, *any* >> analysis would be a step in the right direction. I

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-26 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Waldemar Kornewald > wrote: >> On Sep 25, 4:21 pm, Russell Keith-Magee >> wrote: >>> My reason for wanting this is that I'm

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > On Sep 25, 4:21 pm, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> My reason for wanting this is that I'm simply not an expert in any of >> these backends. I know SQL quite well, but I haven't had

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-25 Thread Florent Gallaire
When a free software project fail to progress because of a bad leadership, you can : 1) make a putsh. 2) make a fork. Florent On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > On Sep 25, 4:21 pm, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> My

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-25 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Sep 25, 4:21 pm, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > My reason for wanting this is that I'm simply not an expert in any of > these backends. I know SQL quite well, but I haven't had occasion to > try out other backends in depth. I can judge the technical merits of a > patch

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > Hi, > in my last discussion on django-users Russell told me that he'd like > to see four proof-of-concept (or better) backends before considering > NoSQL for inclusion in trunk. The number 4 wasn't actually the

four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-25 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
Hi, in my last discussion on django-users Russell told me that he'd like to see four proof-of-concept (or better) backends before considering NoSQL for inclusion in trunk. The primary point was that enough eyeballs have looked at the API, first. Now we finally have four backends for Django-nonrel: