Re: We need this

2005-11-08 Thread hugo
Hi, >Django still needs it because not all deployment of Django >will be over >WSGI. Although that could easily be solved by dumping the current mod_python handler in favor of a mod_python WSGI handler and only using the WSGI stuff. That way we could make much better use off WSGI middleware and

Re: We need this

2005-11-08 Thread Ian Bicking
hugo wrote: >>Django still needs it because not all deployment of Django >will be over >>WSGI. > > > Although that could easily be solved by dumping the current mod_python > handler in favor of a mod_python WSGI handler and only using the WSGI > stuff. That way we could make much better use off

Re: We need this

2005-11-08 Thread Simon Willison
On 8 Nov 2005, at 08:47, Ian Bicking wrote: However, I don't think you'd lose anything by routing everything through WSGI. IIRC, the reason Django doesn't use WSGI in the first place is that when we first created it two years ago WSGI was still being fleshed out on the Python Web SIG m

Re: We need this

2005-11-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/8/05, hugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although that could easily be solved by dumping the current mod_python > handler in favor of a mod_python WSGI handler and only using the WSGI > stuff. That way we could make much better use off WSGI middleware and > other things Ian is working on. My

Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Robert Wittams
So I went to the London Django/Rails meetup yesterday. In general a good time was had - met Simon Willison, and some ThoughtWorks guys doing a GreenPeace site with Django. The general feeling from those using or considering Django (including some rubyists) seemed to be "Release a 0.7 tarball, for

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/8/05, Robert Wittams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The general feeling from those using or considering Django (including > some rubyists) seemed to be "Release a 0.7 tarball, for the love of all > that is holy!" > > It seems that quite some people just aren't comfortable with checking > thing

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: On 11/8/05, Robert Wittams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The general feeling from those using or considering Django (including some rubyists) seemed to be "Release a 0.7 tarball, for the love of all that is holy!" It seems that quite some peo

Re: We need this

2005-11-08 Thread Ian Bicking
Simon Willison wrote: On 8 Nov 2005, at 08:47, Ian Bicking wrote: However, I don't think you'd lose anything by routing everything through WSGI. IIRC, the reason Django doesn't use WSGI in the first place is that when we first created it two years ago WSGI was still being fleshed out o

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Eric Walstad
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 08:35, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > I think we need to bite our lips, suck it up, and release a 1.0   > version. +1 A "stable" release would make those who are trusting my judgement in choosing Django for a medium-large-ish project a little less nervous (me, too).

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/8/05, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it sounds OK, I'd like to start a 1.0 release branch and only > apply any outstanding bug fixes to it; moving feature requests/ > patches to a 1.1 target. That way we can get a stable 1.0 out the > door and focus on 1.1 for feature imp

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jakub Labath
On 11/8/05, Eric Walstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 November 2005 08:35, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > I think we need to bite our lips, suck it up, and release a 1.0 > > version. > > +1 > > A "stable" release would make those who are trusting my judgement in > choosing Django for

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I got to say that I really think what adrian says is the right thing to do. Get the docs done, and merge the new-admin got to be top priority in my opinion.

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Nov 8, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: Here's what we should finish before this first 1.0 version: * Transactions. Agreed. * New-admin branch. What's the state of this branch? Last time I tried it out -- a few weeks ago, IIRC -- there seemed to be a bunch more work to be d

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/8/05, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the state of this branch? Last time I tried it out -- a few > weeks ago, IIRC -- there seemed to be a bunch more work to be done. > I'd obviously LOVE to see this get rolled in, but if it's a "few > months" thing I don't think it w

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Pedro Furtado
2005/11/8, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * RSS > * Comments framework > * Authentication (already started; I need to finish) > * Admin-site documentation (already started on my laptop; I need to finish) > * Views (already started on my laptop; I need to finish) > * Finish tutorial > * H

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Nov 8, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: I'd like to see a solution to "core=True" before 1.0 -- i.e., not having to use that anymore. This goes beyond what new-admin offers, and it would probably be a backwards-incompatible change (hence the 1.0 requirement). That's a good point --

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
# Why don`t we include Django-Ajax in 1.0? I agree that releasing it # sooner is good for the project but a nice ajax interface is the # future for all web applications. Don`t you agree this is an # imprescindible update? I think that really goes into the "bells and whistles" category. Admittedly

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 11/8/05, Pedro Furtado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don`t you agree this is an imprescindible > update? I dunno what imprescindible means. :)

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 11/8/05, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Screencasts so fucking exciting you'll cry. I'll stock up on gatorade.

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Eugene Lazutkin
Inline. "Adrian Holovaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 11/8/05, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Transactions. There are problems with transactions in caching --- sometimes database is locked up for no reason without any errors. I didn't hav

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Maniac
Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: So, any objections to starting a 1.0 bug-fix-only release branch? No objection but a concern... Some time ago I filed a ticket (http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/570/) about FormWrapper not working for ForeignKey fields. It's rather basic functionality and I co

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Ian Holsman
personally I'd like to see the user-registration app get documented/released as well. what is the state of this? On 11/9/05, Eugene Lazutkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Inline. > > "Adrian Holovaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 11/8/05, Jacob Kaplan-Mos

User registration module

2005-11-08 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:33 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: personally I'd like to see the user-registration app get documented/released as well. what is the state of this? The registration app (as opposed to just the user module) is currently part of our proprietary software package and I'm not sure i

Re: Small report from Django/Rails meetup

2005-11-08 Thread Robert Wittams
Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > >> On 11/8/05, Robert Wittams >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The general feeling from those using or considering Django (including >>> some rubyists) seemed to be "Release a 0.7 tarball, for the love of all