Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-12 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 12, 12:56 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > Sorry? Django importing magic? "from app.models import MyModel"... is magic? I didn't say "model importing". I'm talking about things like the restrictions on what you can import in settings.py, and ticket #8193 (double

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > On Oct 11, 4:31 pm, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> However, I can't recall the last time that someone asked the general >> question of how to avoid a name collision between their two

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 11, 4:31 pm, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > If you can name a company that has produced more in-house Django > applications than the number that is publicly available for download > off the internet, I'll eat my hat. :-) That isn't the right measure. I'm just

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Hanne Moa
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 01:46, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Hanne Moa wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 13:51, Russell Keith-Magee >> wrote: >>> Looking at #3591 in particular - another

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > On Oct 11, 9:52 am, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: >> >> This is true, but again, the distinction between

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 11, 9:52 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > This is true, but again, the distinction between theoretical and > practical problem emerges. The set of mainstream apps in the wild is >

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > On Oct 11, 12:46 am, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> If I may ask - which apps (or app names) caused the collision? Off the >> top of my head, I can't think of any especially mainstream

Re: Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-11 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 11, 12:46 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > If I may ask - which apps (or app names) caused the collision? Off the > top of my head, I can't think of any especially mainstream application Considering just "mainstream" applications would appear to discount any

Does #3591 need solving? (was Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule)

2009-10-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Hanne Moa wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 13:51, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> Looking at #3591 in particular - another big part of the problem is >> that the ticket tries to solve a theoretical problem that, in

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-10 Thread Hanne Moa
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 13:51, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > Looking at #3591 in particular - another big part of the problem is > that the ticket tries to solve a theoretical problem that, in > practice, doesn't really exist - that of namespace collisions in >

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-10 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 10, 12:51 pm, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > It isn't just a matter of core developers not having enough time to > review a specific patch - it's that there is a lot more design work > required. [snip] > In the case of #3591, there is still a lot of design work

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > >> While it may not be *technically* too late to get the feature on the >> voting list, my Magic 8-ball predicts that any vote on #3591 will have >> the same result as last time - Rejected, needs more design work. >>

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-10 Thread Vinay Sajip
> While it may not be *technically* too late to get the feature on the > voting list, my Magic 8-ball predicts that any vote on #3591 will have > the same result as last time - Rejected, needs more design work. > > All the serious proposals for v1.2 on the wiki have had extensive (and > recent)

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > On Oct 8, 6:44 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: >> We're still gathering feature requests for 1.2 >> (seehttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Version1.2Features), but we're >> going to work voting

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-09 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 8, 6:44 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > We're still gathering feature requests for 1.2 > (seehttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Version1.2Features), but we're > going to work voting differently. Instead of categorizing features > into "must-have / should-have / pony"

Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-08 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi folks -- Yup, it's that time again! For the tl;dr-ers, here's the short version: * We're aiming to release Django 1.2 on March 9th, 2010. * We'll begin voting on features for 1.2 very soon (today or tomorrow). * We're modifying the process slightly from last time; in particular, we're going