Re: Interested in GSoC idea "Replace Form Media Class"

[Varun Sharma]

Thanks Tim for letting me know. I think I should better work on "Test framework 
cleanup" idea :)

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 04:01:53PM -0700, Tim Graham wrote:
> Jannis Leidel, who's worked a fair bit on django-compressor, said this: 
> "I’m not convinced that this is feasible in the way the OP proposed it. 
> Porting over pipeline or compressor will just bring all of their downsides 
> into Django’s code. And besides, the frontend tech world is currently in a 
> state of reinvention so I’d rather not have us support a pattern that may 
> work now but won’t in the mid and longterm. All in all I think it would be 
> a hard project outside gsoc, to find a api that is flexible enough for 
> potential future use cases, for a gsoc it seems like a bad idea tbh."
> 

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Re: Interested in GSoC idea "Replace Form Media Class"

[Tim Graham]

Jannis Leidel, who's worked a fair bit on django-compressor, said this: 
"I’m not convinced that this is feasible in the way the OP proposed it. 
Porting over pipeline or compressor will just bring all of their downsides 
into Django’s code. And besides, the frontend tech world is currently in a 
state of reinvention so I’d rather not have us support a pattern that may 
work now but won’t in the mid and longterm. All in all I think it would be 
a hard project outside gsoc, to find a api that is flexible enough for 
potential future use cases, for a gsoc it seems like a bad idea tbh."

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 5:37:44 PM UTC-4, Varun Sharma wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Sorry for such a late response, I was caught up in the midterms.
> The project idea is like this:
>
> Right now we have a Media class which is used to fetch the form assets but 
> is not very popular. In order to replace it with a new preprocessor, I see 
> two viable solutions:
>
> 1. Creating a new app 'static' in django.contrib with glean best practices 
> from django-pipeline and django-compressor.
>
> In this option, all the assets need to be declared in STATIC_CSS and 
> STATIC_JS dicts in the settings for the different apps/scenarios just like 
> they have it in django-pipeline and these assets can be loaded in templates 
> as per requirements.
>
> We can provide support for all the major js and css compressors/compilers 
> like CoffeeScript, LiveScript, Closure, JsMin, Slimit, UglifyJS and YUI 
> compressor for Javascript and CssMIN and CSSTidy minifier for CSS by 
> installing these compilers in advance.
> All the files that need to be minified can be mentioned in 
> source_filenames and the minified version will be generated as 
> STATIC_JS['output_filename'] after compilation during collectstatic.
>
> For eg:
>
> STATIC_JS = {
> 'main': {
> 'source_filenames': (
> 'coffee/app.coffee',
> 'js/*'
> ),
> 'output_filename': 'min.js',
> },
> }
>
> STATIC_CSS = {
> 'main': {
> 'source_filenames': (
> 'stylus/main.styl',
> 'css/*',
> ),
> 'output_filename': 'main.css',
> }
> }
>
>
> 2. Creating a new 'Static' class in django.contrib.staticfiles and 
> integrating it with the current implementation to add preprocessing.
>
> Another option is that, we can have a permanent solution without any 
> future need of any ad-hoc based solution for the problem of static resource 
> optimisation. But it will require a lot of changes in the entire structure 
> of staticfiles, mostly in staticfile handlers and storage. Placement of 
> compiler support files in contib.staticfiles might also be a concern in 
> this case.
>
> I am still discovering and learning new things about django and 
> preprocessing. I'd really appreciate if I'll be able to get feedback on 
> this from django community, so that I can draft a better proposal for this 
> project.
>
>
> Thanks
> Varun
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Tim Graham  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Varun,
>>
>> Thanks for your interest. If you want feedback, you'll need to describe 
>> your ideas in more detail.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 10:31:34 PM UTC-5, Varun Sharma wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've been pondering over the django codebase and GSoC ideas for some 
>>> time now. I find the idea of replacing Media class really interesting. As 
>>> mentioned in the ticket #22298 
>>>  discussion, it will be 
>>> really usefull to replace the Media class with some sort of combination of 
>>> django-pipeline and django-compressor as a new Static class. I would love 
>>> to add this feature to django in this summer and I would like to discuss 
>>> this idea further to help me get the best implementation for this idea.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Varun
>>>
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Re: Interested in GSoC idea "Replace Form Media Class"

[Varun Sharma]

Hi Tim,

Sorry for such a late response, I was caught up in the midterms.
The project idea is like this:

Right now we have a Media class which is used to fetch the form assets but
is not very popular. In order to replace it with a new preprocessor, I see
two viable solutions:

1. Creating a new app 'static' in django.contrib with glean best practices
from django-pipeline and django-compressor.

In this option, all the assets need to be declared in STATIC_CSS and
STATIC_JS dicts in the settings for the different apps/scenarios just like
they have it in django-pipeline and these assets can be loaded in templates
as per requirements.

We can provide support for all the major js and css compressors/compilers
like CoffeeScript, LiveScript, Closure, JsMin, Slimit, UglifyJS and YUI
compressor for Javascript and CssMIN and CSSTidy minifier for CSS by
installing these compilers in advance.
All the files that need to be minified can be mentioned in source_filenames
and the minified version will be generated as STATIC_JS['output_filename']
after compilation during collectstatic.

For eg:

STATIC_JS = {
'main': {
'source_filenames': (
'coffee/app.coffee',
'js/*'
),
'output_filename': 'min.js',
},
}

STATIC_CSS = {
'main': {
'source_filenames': (
'stylus/main.styl',
'css/*',
),
'output_filename': 'main.css',
}
}


2. Creating a new 'Static' class in django.contrib.staticfiles and
integrating it with the current implementation to add preprocessing.

Another option is that, we can have a permanent solution without any future
need of any ad-hoc based solution for the problem of static resource
optimisation. But it will require a lot of changes in the entire structure
of staticfiles, mostly in staticfile handlers and storage. Placement of
compiler support files in contib.staticfiles might also be a concern in
this case.

I am still discovering and learning new things about django and
preprocessing. I'd really appreciate if I'll be able to get feedback on
this from django community, so that I can draft a better proposal for this
project.


Thanks
Varun


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Tim Graham  wrote:

> Hi Varun,
>
> Thanks for your interest. If you want feedback, you'll need to describe
> your ideas in more detail.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 10:31:34 PM UTC-5, Varun Sharma wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've been pondering over the django codebase and GSoC ideas for some time
>> now. I find the idea of replacing Media class really interesting. As
>> mentioned in the ticket #22298
>>  discussion, it will be
>> really usefull to replace the Media class with some sort of combination of
>> django-pipeline and django-compressor as a new Static class. I would love
>> to add this feature to django in this summer and I would like to discuss
>> this idea further to help me get the best implementation for this idea.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Varun
>>
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Re: Interested in GSoC idea "Replace Form Media Class"

[Tim Graham]

Hi Varun,

Thanks for your interest. If you want feedback, you'll need to describe 
your ideas in more detail.

Tim

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 10:31:34 PM UTC-5, Varun Sharma wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been pondering over the django codebase and GSoC ideas for some time 
> now. I find the idea of replacing Media class really interesting. As 
> mentioned in the ticket #22298 
>  discussion, it will be 
> really usefull to replace the Media class with some sort of combination of 
> django-pipeline and django-compressor as a new Static class. I would love 
> to add this feature to django in this summer and I would like to discuss 
> this idea further to help me get the best implementation for this idea.
>
> Thanks
> Varun
>

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Interested in GSoC idea "Replace Form Media Class"

[Varun Sharma]

Hi everyone,

I've been pondering over the django codebase and GSoC ideas for some time
now. I find the idea of replacing Media class really interesting. As
mentioned in the ticket #22298 
discussion, it will be really usefull to replace the Media class with some
sort of combination of django-pipeline and django-compressor as a new
Static class. I would love to add this feature to django in this summer and
I would like to discuss this idea further to help me get the best
implementation for this idea.

Thanks
Varun

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