Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread Tim Graham
I'm not sure what you mean. Are solutions like the third-party package you pointed to insufficient? On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 2:01:50 PM UTC-4, is_null wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Tim Graham > wrote: > > I'm skeptical of moving anything JavaScript

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread James Pic
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > I'm skeptical of moving anything JavaScript related from admin into core as > this makes a stronger endorsement of and coupling to jQuery. Makes sense, would there be any intermediary solution at least ? -- You received

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread Tim Graham
I'm skeptical of moving anything JavaScript related from admin into core as this makes a stronger endorsement of and coupling to jQuery. On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 10:22:31 AM UTC-4, is_null wrote: > > There are a lot of interresting things to do, perhaps we could extract > code from the

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread James Pic
There are a lot of interresting things to do, perhaps we could extract code from the admin into the core ? An example of this is the django-addanother app, which replicates the pattern used by the admin add another widget in an app for usage outside the admin. Would moving that kind of things

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread Tom Christie
> I also think that working on existing outstanding ticket first and trying to solve issues incrementally would be a good approach? Absolutely, yes. There's plenty of good work that can be done there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi Tom, > I'd suggest that a side-project of redesigning the Django Admin from scratch isn't a realistic goal. I also think that working on existing outstanding ticket first and trying to solve issues incrementally would be a good approach? Thanks On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 3:28:09 PM

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-26 Thread Tom Christie
> But for the money I don't have any initial source to manage It. Jacob is using the figure more to give an idea of the amount of effort he believes it would involve, rather than suggesting that we should make a serious attempt to raise that amount of money. > can you guide/ show me any

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Asif - I don't think a DEP is the right approach. The problem isn't a controversial feature or a hard-to-design-API; it's that this is going to take a lot of time or money, and probably both. Writing a DEP won't answer the question of "how the heck are you going to find a half-dozen people who

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi jacob, happy to see your insightful reply. I think I'm going to start the process with a draft dep soon and I'm planning to devote my engagement in the development too. Will keep you suggestions in mind :) thanks, Asif On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 2:45:42 PM UTC+6, Asif Saifuddin wrote:

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Asif - You're probably noticing some pushback already, so I want to give you some background as to why that's the case. The admin may look simple on the surface, but it's shockingly complex and represents a ton of work. The original version was the work of a whole team (Simon, Adrian, Wilson,

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Marc Tamlyn
There are certainly elements of forms refactoring you would want to pull from the admin - read only fields and fieldsets being the two most obvious. At a guess, James is alluding to https://github.com/mjtamlyn/django-adapters, my currently stalled project to think about reworking the

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi is_null, form refactor is an important part but that shouldn't stop us from starting the process. thanks On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 3:19:36 PM UTC+6, is_null wrote: > > Shouldn't the forms refactor happen first ? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread James Pic
Shouldn't the forms refactor happen first ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Marc Tamlyn
Sure, give me 12 months of two full time experienced Django developers and we can rewrite the admin. Honestly, I think everyone knows the admin would benefit from a significant rewrite. However, as the efforts of admin2 proved, it's a huge job to undertake. The admin has a huge number of features

Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi, the admin app of django is consists of many old day codes. How about rewriting it with present day approaches? adopting ideas from django-admin2 where possible? and how about using jinja2 templates as default for admin? thanks, asif -- You received this message because you are