Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

суббота, 14 июня 2014 г., 4:52:57 UTC+4 пользователь Tim Graham написал: > > Hi Shai and Oracle users, > > I came across a ticket (#11580 > ) which proposes a fix that > works on Oracle > 11 but not for older versions along with the suggestion: >

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

On 14-06-14 02:52, Tim Graham wrote: 11.1 - Aug 2007 - Aug 2012 - Aug 2015 10.2 - Jul 2005 - Jul 2010 - Jul 2013 To provide an additional data point: I checked with a colleague. We do a lot of business with governmental organizations in the Netherlands (mainly water boards). Most of them are

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

There will be a need for some gradiented support of Psql with contrib.postgres. I think a sensible CI setup would be to run the full test suite against 9.4 and the contrib.postgres test suite only against 9.1-9.3. That would be my preferred compromise. Marc On 16 Jun 2014 01:24, "Russell

Re: Supporting and using EOL'd software (was Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?)

On Sunday 15 June 2014 10:59:17 Michael Manfre wrote: > I don't see how it should be up to Django to continue to support all of > these archaic versions of Oracle. To paraphrase the mantra repeated during > various mssql discussions, "Django doesn't need to include everything in > core, it just

Re: Supporting and using EOL'd software (was Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?)

I don't see how it should be up to Django to continue to support all of these archaic versions of Oracle. To paraphrase the mantra repeated during various mssql discussions, "Django doesn't need to include everything in core, it just needs to make it possible for others to implement". If people

Re: Supporting and using EOL'd software (was Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?)

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee < russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Shai Berger wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> TL;DR -- ...sorry, there's no TL;DR here. It's a bunch of separate ideas. >> It's >> a little lengthy. Please bear

Supporting and using EOL'd software (was Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?)

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Shai Berger > wrote: > Hi guys, > > TL;DR -- ...sorry, there's no TL;DR here. It's a bunch of separate ideas. > It's > a little lengthy. Please bear with me. > > I'd like to compare our support

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > On 14 juin 2014, at 14:40, Tim Graham wrote: > > > My general proposal (for all databases) would be to drop support for a > database version in the Django release that follows

Supporting and using EOL'd software (was Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?)

Hi guys, TL;DR -- ...sorry, there's no TL;DR here. It's a bunch of separate ideas. It's a little lengthy. Please bear with me. I'd like to compare our support for old database servers with our support for old browsers. We only recently dropped code that supported IE 6/7 (!) for a security (!)

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

Not much to add, just that I agree with Tim and Aymeric. We cannot and should not claim to support database versions which are no longer supported by their authors and do not receive security updates. That's not to say we should actively break support for old databases if they happen to work, but

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

On 14 juin 2014, at 14:40, Tim Graham wrote: > My general proposal (for all databases) would be to drop support for a > database version in the Django release that follows its end-of-life date. That's also my position. It applies to all dependencies of Django, even

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

It seems to weird to claim (even best-effort/community) support for a database that is no longer supported by its authors. Also, you can always use an older version of Django, right? I tend to think you're probably not interested in the latest and greatest Django if you're using a really old

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Shai Berger wrote: > Hi Tim and all, > > On Saturday 14 June 2014 03:52:57 Tim Graham wrote: >> >> Release - GA Date - Premier Support Ends - Extended Support Ends >> >> 11.1 - Aug 2007 - Aug 2012 - Aug 2015 >> 10.2 - Jul 2005 - Jul 2010 - Jul

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

Personally we use oracle 11g (with a plan to move to 12c within the next year), but it wasn't that long ago that we were still using 10g. We're a smaller company that is able to upgrade our database without significant impact, but I'm betting (and guessing..) the vast majority of oracle users

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

Hi Tim and all, On Saturday 14 June 2014 03:52:57 Tim Graham wrote: > > Release - GA Date - Premier Support Ends - Extended Support Ends > > 11.1 - Aug 2007 - Aug 2012 - Aug 2015 > 10.2 - Jul 2005 - Jul 2010 - Jul 2013 > 10.1 Jan 2004 - Jan 2009 - Jan 2012 > 9.2 Jul 2002 - Jul 2007 - Jul 2010 >