Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt

2014-06-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Elizabeth Zwicky writes: No, I mean to say that never stopped does not mean never slowed down, it means never stopped. OK. I'll remember that. In any case, now I wonder what they're really trying to do. They can check for p=reject without sending *any* mail. (I know, you're not in a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt

2014-06-13 Thread John Sweet
On Jun 13, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: In any case, now I wonder what they're really trying to do. They can check for p=reject without sending *any* mail. That's not an integration test. It's all automated. The answer you want is, Can I make money now?

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt

2014-06-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Sweet writes: That's not an integration test. It's all automated. The answer you want is, Can I make money now? This is how you get the answer. The DMARC record is only part of the story, whether recipients act on it or not is just as important. Well, for Author Domains publishing

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

2014-06-13 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Phillip Hallam-Baker writes: My point is that mail is an old protocol and people who expect that it can be kept going unaltered in its original form serving all the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] advice to MTAs

2014-06-13 Thread Hector Santos
On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but it has seemed self-evident that you need a single identifier that is displayed to the end user and 5322.From is the only identifier that even comes close to being the right one. And

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

2014-06-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 13 Jun 2014, at 7:55, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Just a quick reminder here: Postal mail is still going strong, after 100s of years. I don't know what it's like where you live, but here the only thing that is keeping the post office afloat is being paid by

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

2014-06-13 Thread Matt Simerson
On Jun 13, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 13 Jun 2014, at 7:55, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Just a quick reminder here: Postal mail is still going strong, after 100s of years. I don't know what it's like where you live, but here the only