Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC cv=invalid

2017-06-20 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
Formerly, On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Seth Blank wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Brandon Long wrote: > >> The google implementation pre-dates cv=invalid, and when I went to >> implement it, I couldn't find a good reason to do so, nor a great

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC cv=invalid

2017-06-20 Thread Seth Blank
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Gene Shuman wrote: > Yeah, we certainly shouldn't be restarting the chain, and I (& I think > most everyone else) concur that when it's invalid, the end. However I also > don't think we should be keeping everything as fail, as invalid is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC cv=invalid

2017-06-20 Thread Gene Shuman
Yeah, we certainly shouldn't be restarting the chain, and I (& I think most everyone else) concur that when it's invalid, the end. However I also don't think we should be keeping everything as fail, as invalid is pretty sematically different. And there is a clear line. cv=invalid if and only if

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC cv=invalid

2017-06-20 Thread Seth Blank
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Brandon Long wrote: > The google implementation pre-dates cv=invalid, and when I went to > implement it, I couldn't find a good reason to do so, nor a great > bright-line rule for how to differentiate the two. > > I don't see the point of trying

[dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-usage-02.txt

2017-06-20 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance of the IETF. Title : Recommended Usage of the Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Authors

[dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-protocol-04.txt

2017-06-20 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance of the IETF. Title : Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Protocol Authors : Kurt

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC cv=invalid

2017-06-20 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Gene Shuman wrote: > Starting a new thread, as this is probably *the* major blocker wrt > OpenARC. . . > Taking your two questions in reversed order: . . .what *precisely* constitutes an invalid chain vs a failing one? I had > previously