Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 11:26:05 AM EDT Todd Herr wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 7:44 PM Scott Kitterman > > wrote: > > On July 13, 2022 9:51:31 PM UTC, John R Levine wrote: > > >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: > > >> It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: > > >>> Speaking as a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 15, 2022 6:26:39 PM UTC, "John R. Levine" wrote: >On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> +1 from me too. Note, though, that the (current) DNS is accidentally >> correct most of the time, as far as our Tree Walk is concerned. > >No, it's not an accident. We designed the tree

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-15 Thread John R. Levine
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: +1 from me too. Note, though, that the (current) DNS is accidentally correct most of the time, as far as our Tree Walk is concerned. No, it's not an accident. We designed the tree walk based on our knowledge of the way people publish DMARC record

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread John R Levine
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: Organizational Domains are defined as PSD+1, and can have DMARC records I think this would be a good time to review the way relaxed alignment works in sections 4.5 through 4.8 of the draft. Perhaps 0.01% of the time, a tree walk will find a recor

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 15 Jul 2022, at 12:02, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > > On Wed 13/Jul/2022 23:51:31 +0200 John Levine wrote: > >> I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper >> and lower case. >> A lot of the lower case "must" was saying that one thing is the same as >> an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 13/Jul/2022 23:51:31 +0200 John Levine wrote: I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper and lower case. A lot of the lower case "must" was saying that one thing is the same as another using tortured syntax so I rewrote most of them to be shorter an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 14/Jul/2022 17:12:19 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 6:13 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: I think a choice within DMARCbis is a bad idea. Effectively the choice exists. Evaluators will have the choice to stay with an RFC 7489 design or to upgrade to DMARCbis. The