Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:16:12 AM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Fri 15/Jul/2022 18:03:36 +0200 John Levine wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> Organizational Domains are defined as PSD+1, and can have DMARC records > > > > I think this would be a good time to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-16 Thread Douglas Foster
This is about Ale's question about handling the situation where the tree walk starts on a PSD=y entry: When the tree walk starts at a PSD=Y record, the appropriate response is to treat it as a self-contained organization (PSD=N) and force alignment to STRICT for both SPF and DKIM. This rule

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-16 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 15/Jul/2022 18:03:36 +0200 John Levine wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: Organizational Domains are defined as PSD+1, and can have DMARC records I think this would be a good time to review the way relaxed alignment works in sections 4.5 through 4.8 of the draft.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-16 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 15/Jul/2022 13:23:20 +0200 Laura Atkins wrote: On 15 Jul 2022, at 12:02, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Wed 13/Jul/2022 23:51:31 +0200 John Levine wrote: I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper and lower case. A lot of the lower case "must" was saying

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 11:26:05 AM EDT Todd Herr wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 7:44 PM Scott Kitterman > > wrote: > > On July 13, 2022 9:51:31 PM UTC, John R Levine wrote: > > >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: > > >> It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: > > >>> Speaking as

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread John R Levine
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: Organizational Domains are defined as PSD+1, and can have DMARC records I think this would be a good time to review the way relaxed alignment works in sections 4.5 through 4.8 of the draft. Perhaps 0.01% of the time, a tree walk will find a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 15 Jul 2022, at 12:02, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > > On Wed 13/Jul/2022 23:51:31 +0200 John Levine wrote: > >> I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper >> and lower case. >> A lot of the lower case "must" was saying that one thing is the same as >>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 13/Jul/2022 23:51:31 +0200 John Levine wrote: I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper and lower case. A lot of the lower case "must" was saying that one thing is the same as another using tortured syntax so I rewrote most of them to be shorter

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-14 Thread Todd Herr
On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 7:44 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > On July 13, 2022 9:51:31 PM UTC, John R Levine wrote: > >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: > >> It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: > >>> Speaking as an AD now, you should expect me to complain about the > "SHOULD" > >>> in

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 13, 2022 9:51:31 PM UTC, John R Levine wrote: >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: >> It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: >>> Speaking as an AD now, you should expect me to complain about the "SHOULD" >>> in Section 4.7. > >I went through and looked at all of the "must" and

Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-13 Thread John R Levine
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: Speaking as an AD now, you should expect me to complain about the "SHOULD" in Section 4.7. I went through and looked at all of the "must" and "should", in both upper and lower case. A lot of the lower case