Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-27 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Terry Zink via dmarc-discuss: I'm not sure I follow what the problem is. AFAIK, we send NDRs from postmaster@ and then use the customer's default domain. Most customers have this set to *.onmicrosoft.com which they get when they sign up for the service, and then some flip it to their

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-22 Thread Terry Zink via dmarc-discuss
Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com Am 21.12.2017 um 02:03 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: Hello Roland, > Have you explored whether the organisations whose DSNs are failing DMARC also > have the rest of their email failing DMARC? at least I didn't hav

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-21 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Am 21.12.2017 um 02:03 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: Hello Roland, > Have you explored whether the organisations whose DSNs are failing DMARC also > have the rest of their email failing DMARC? at least I didn't have seen messages from those organisations with non empty

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-21 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Am 21.12.2017 um 01:37 schrieb Brandon Long via dmarc-discuss: > For bounces (ie, empty MAIL FROM), the EHLO argument is used for the SPF > lookup, so it is technically possible for there to be a valid SPF record. Hello Brandon, I wasn't aware of that. But

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-21 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
On 21/12/17 05:43, A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss wrote Am 20.12.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: What HELO/EHLO hostname is being presented? I'm out of office for the next days and have no access to that data. From what I remember it's the hostname of the sending system,

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-20 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
On 21/12/17 05:43, A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss wrote: Am 20.12.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: What HELO/EHLO hostname is being presented? I'm out of office for the next days and have no access to that data. From what I remember it's the hostname of the sending

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-20 Thread Brandon Long via dmarc-discuss
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:48 PM A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss < dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > > > Am 20.12.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: > > What HELO/EHLO hostname is being presented? > > I'm out of office for the next days and have no access to that data. > From what

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-20 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Am 20.12.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: > What HELO/EHLO hostname is being presented? I'm out of office for the next days and have no access to that data. >From what I remember it's the hostname of the sending system, a rDNS related >to Microsoft. Why do you think, the

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-20 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
What HELO/EHLO hostname is being presented? - Roland On 20/12/17 21:14, A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss wrote: Hello, we use to send a portion of messages requesting delivery status notification on success. In general

[dmarc-discuss] DSN from microsoftonline.com

2017-12-20 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Hello, we use to send a portion of messages requesting delivery status notification on success. In general DSN messages tend to not pass DMARC very often, but as we request DSN on success explicit we monitor them. Now I noticed a pattern on DSN sent from Microsoft. RFC5321.MailFrom <>