Re: [DMM] Light review of draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-12

2019-03-05 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Dirk, It is not difficult to extend FPC for BNG as most of the rules are similar in structure. My team built an FPC agent and we are now building Sx (3GPP CUPS PFCP) but it is at best a subset of FPC and has some holes. I am unsure I would materially update FPC based on what I have learned

Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-12.txt

2018-06-18 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
FYI - This is a YANG fix for default config statements to be consistent with NMDA statements made in the Appendix. Apologies for the submission spam. Please look at the version 11 diff for substantive updates. Lyle > -Original Message- > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Beha

Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-11.txt

2018-06-18 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, The following changes have been made since version 10 as noted during IETF 101: Service-Endpoints eliminated. Service-Group and DPN interfaces changed to hold information previously held by Service-Endpoint as noted in *ML* during IETF 101. Scrubbed YANG for NMD

Re: [DMM] IETF102 - Call for agenda items

2018-06-06 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Topic Name: FPC version 11 Presenter Name: Lyle Bertz Time: 20 minutes Draft Reference: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp/ > -Original Message- > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli > (sgundave) > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018

[DMM] Support for MNIDs (draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-06)

2018-02-28 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, I would like to express my support of getting this particular work out as standard. As we are implementing networks that support IoT (be it 4G IoT or 5G), new Mobile Node Types identified in the specification are appearing in more than just device configurations, i.e. we see these identif

Re: [DMM] IETF101 - Call for agenda items

2018-02-27 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Sri: Please add the following if Charlie has not already requested. Topic Name: FPC update Time: 30 minutes Draft Reference: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp.txt Lyle -Original Message- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Sen

Re: [DMM] FPC Working Session

2018-02-19 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Due to schedules, the daily meetings for FPC are cancelled for this Thursday and Friday. Lyle -Original Appointment- From: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 12:54 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]; Charlie Perkins; Satoru Matsushima; Marco Liebsch; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave

[DMM] FPC Calls

2018-02-14 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Due to scheduling conflicts we are cancelling today and tomorrow's calls. See y'all on Friday. Lyle This e-mail may contain Sprint proprietary information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not the inten

Re: [DMM] FPC meetings - Cancelling tomorrow's meeting

2018-02-13 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
is all about Section 4 (except the last item) but the implication is a streamlined protocol model Lyle -Original Message- From: Satoru Matsushima [mailto:satoru.matsush...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:25 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] FP

[DMM] FPC meetings - Cancelling tomorrow's meeting

2018-02-12 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, I sent out invites for FPC meetings for 1 hour daily at 9 am CST a few weeks ago. We are cancelling tomorrow's meeting so that we can focus on document updates. Thanks! Lyle This e-mail may contain Sprint proprietary information intended for the sole

[DMM] Updated FPC Working Sessions

2018-02-01 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
END:STANDARD BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:16010101T02 TZOFFSETFROM:-0600 TZOFFSETTO:-0500 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=2SU;BYMONTH=3 END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT ORGANIZER;CN="Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]":MAILTO:lyle.t.be...@sprint.com ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-A

[DMM] FPC Policy - Working Session & Concepts

2018-01-31 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, For tomorrow we'll start the work on Policy. Concepts. Policy structure (Policy, Rule, Descriptor and Action) definitions are templates. They may be complete or require further complementary information, referred to as Settings, to complete them. Indexed (given a key) structures are r

[DMM] FPC Working Session - 31JAN2018

2018-01-31 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Good progress. 1. Validated entity model can support DDDS selection (3GPP, IETF) 2. 2 proposals enclosed with updates per todays' discussion & a few open questions. Tomorrow is open questions and starting policy. Lyle This e-mail may contain Spri

Re: [DMM] FPC - Topology

2018-01-30 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Comments inline From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:20 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] FPC - Topology Hello Lyle, I have comments on the slides, and could benefit from larger discussion on the mailing

[DMM] FPC - Topology

2018-01-30 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, I've put together a quick assessment on Topology (proposed for new draft and v09). We'll briefly review it today as time permits. Lyle This e-mail may contain Sprint proprietary information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by other

[DMM] FYI - FPC Working sessions

2018-01-29 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
;BYMONTH=3 END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT ORGANIZER;CN="Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]":MAILTO:lyle.t.be...@sprint.com ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Charlie Pe rkins:MAILTO:charles.perk...@earthlink.net ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSV

[DMM] FPC Touchpoint - Interface Groups

2018-01-29 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
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Re: [DMM] Policy in the FPC draft - definitions, context transfer, keys, indexing, etc.

2018-01-28 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Charlie, Thanks for the example. A couple of notes. I appears that in your proposed terminology for Descriptors and Actions it is not clear where Attribute Values appear. Are they the Settings we’ve been using? To your proposal “For simplicity, I suggest that the Policy Keys enable access

Re: [DMM] Using traffic Descriptors to characterize flows in a Mobility Context

2018-01-23 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Addresses) w/o Rule and DPN assignment creates too much ambiguity, validation cross checking in the DPN / Agent and would result in large, granular hierarchies. From: Charlie Perkins Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:08 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm

Re: [DMM] Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups)

2018-01-23 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
rity scenarios is not placing the operator in a > comfortable situation. From: Charlie Perkins Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:10 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups) Hello Lyle, Thank

Re: [DMM] Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups)

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
able to serve in the same group. Lyle From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:25 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups) Hello Lyle, I agree that: 1. - Interface

Re: [DMM] Parent versus child mobility context

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
More inline. -Original Message- From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:27 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Parent versus child mobility context Hello Lyle, More follow-up inline.  We're getting c

Re: [DMM] Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups)

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
ate for now, look at proposed changes and then revisit this issue. From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 12:07 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: Question about Interface Groups (formerly, DPN Groups) Hello Lyle,

Re: [DMM] Parent versus child mobility context

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Comments inline. -Original Message- From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:54 AM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; Marco Liebsch Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: Parent versus child mobility context Hello Lyle and all, I think I agree with

Re: [DMM] Parent versus child mobility context

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
To: Charlie Perkins ; Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: Satoru Matsushima ; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) ; Moses, Danny ; Weaver, Farni [CTO] ; Matsushima Satoru Subject: RE: Parent versus child mobility context That has been introduced to reflect e.g. dedicated bearers which come on top of default bearers h

Re: [DMM] Indexed sets

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
YANG models" to "the FPC YANG models" as we do not want to speak for all YANG models. -Original Message- From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:11 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: Marco Liebsch ; Satoru Matsushima ; Sri

Re: [DMM] Question about Interface Groups

2018-01-22 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
No, I don’t think they should reside under a DPN. Groups like these also span multiple DPNs which would make containment graphs far too confusing. From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:51 PM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: Marco Liebsch

[DMM] New Version Notification for draft-bertz-dime-policygroups-05.txt

2017-12-30 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Version bump and we have a basic implementation (just the data structures) started here https://gerrit.opencord.org/#/admin/projects/c3po? A new version of I-D, draft-bertz-dime-policygroups-05.txt has been successfully submitted by Lyle Bertz and posted to the IETF repository. Name:

[DMM] New Version Notification for draft-bertz-dime-diamimpr-01.txt

2017-12-30 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
This is a version bump A new version of I-D, draft-bertz-dime-diamimpr-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Lyle Bertz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-bertz-dime-diamimpr Revision: 01 Title: Diameter Specification Recommendations Document date: 2017-

[DMM] New Version Notification for draft-bertz-dime-predictunits-03.txt

2017-12-30 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
This is a version bump A new version of I-D, draft-bertz-dime-predictunits-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Lyle Bertz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-bertz-dime-predictunits Revision: 03 Title: Diameter Predicted Units Document date: 2017-12-29

Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule

2017-12-14 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
tion/descritor? > > Cheers, > --satoru > >> 2017/11/28 14:11、Moses, Danny のメール: >> >> I am OK with the current structure. >> >> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch >> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 23:45 >>

Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule

2017-11-29 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Does the type define type of value, or type of action/descritor? Cheers, --satoru > 2017/11/28 14:11、Moses, Danny のメール: > > I am OK with the current structure. > > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 23:45 > To

Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule

2017-11-28 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
. From: Marco Liebsch [mailto:marco.lieb...@neclab.eu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:54 AM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule Hi Lyle, I see the analysis you brought, thanks for that. My proposal #2 is not my preference as it was only

Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule

2017-11-20 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Marco, Thank you for the write up of both proposals. Forgive the length of the response but I wanted to provide concrete examples based upon the existing data types. Summary, see below for examples and details: - Satoru's Proposal (Proposal 1) - the use of only ID/Type could be repl

Re: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in 3GPP

2017-11-15 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Am I understanding that the hypothesis is that a 128 bit space (ID) is sufficient to represent what is required in the packet to meet current and planned mobility related use cases when coupled with the rest of the IPv6 standard header information (5-tuple)? -Original Message- From: dmm

Re: [DMM] Call for adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as DMM WG document

2017-11-15 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
I support the adoption. From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:03 PM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] Call for adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as DMM WG document Folks: The following message

[DMM] FPC version 09 - changes

2017-11-06 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, **This is not a new version of FPC** I am merely sending out the list of changes for the one sent out last week. Version 09 is the result of work at IETF 99 and subsequent meetings. Changes since the last version: 1. No new features added (sorry) but just better support for a.

Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue in draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-06.txt

2017-03-13 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
-Original Message- From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bcla...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:51 AM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; Radek Krejčí ; draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-c...@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; Per Hedeland Subject: Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue in draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-06.txt Hi Lyle, Let

Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue in draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-06.txt

2017-03-13 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
e working groups pick up YANG. Lyle -Original Message- From: Radek Krejčí [mailto:rkre...@cesnet.cz] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:39 AM To: Benoit Claise ; Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-c...@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; Per Hedeland Subject: Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue i

Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue in draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-06.txt

2017-03-13 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
There appears to be a bug in either the submission tool or confd (I suspect it has to do with caching and updates). Will take this offline. Lyle -Original Message- From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bcla...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:19 AM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] ; draft

Re: [DMM] YANG validation issue in draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-06.txt

2017-03-13 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
We will as soon as we can isolate the error. The error is unhelpful. Do you have any guidance on it? Also, is there any way to rid ourselves of those tailf warnings? They happen quite often and our developers now ignore most errors coming from confd as noise. -Original Message- From

Re: [DMM] RFC 4006 failover of alternate and backup servers

2017-02-02 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Wrong list! My apologies! Please disregard. From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:21 AM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] RFC 4006 failover of alternate and backup servers All, The CC-Session-Failover AVP in its definition

[DMM] RFC 4006 failover of alternate and backup servers

2017-02-02 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, The CC-Session-Failover AVP in its definition uses 'backup server' but the ENUM value for FAILOVER_SUPPORTED states "Moving the credit- control message stream to a backup server MAY require that information related to the credit-control session should also be forwarded to an al

Re: [DMM] dime - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 98

2017-02-02 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
k. so it's not in the dmm charter? Where then should I submit the 'mobility over diameter' spec then? -Original Message- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:28 PM To: jouni.nospam ; dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re:

Re: [DMM] Change "Port" to ? [ was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-05.txt]

2017-01-31 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
+1 From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:04 AM To: Charlie Perkins Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Change "Port" to ? [ was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-05.txt] Hello Charlie, If we keep the port term, your proposal

Re: [DMM] DMM agenda requests

2016-10-27 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
It is a readout of work done. I can go 15 minutes (maybe 20 with technical issues for presenting remotely). Lyle -Original Message- From: jouni.nospam [mailto:jouni.nos...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:18 AM To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM

Re: [DMM] DMM agenda requests

2016-10-27 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Jouni, I will be remote but would like to reserve a slot: Implementation Status of FPC v04/05 – Discuss the implementation of FPC v04 that is mentioned in the draft as well as plans for v05 upgrades Draft: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp-05 Time: 10 minutes Lyle -- Forwarded message

Re: [DMM] We can't extract the YANG model from draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp

2016-10-24 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
Thank you Benoit for pointing this out. We will correct in the next update. Lyle -Original Message- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Benoit Claise Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:07 AM To: draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-c...@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] We can't extrac

Re: [DMM] IPR call for draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-params-02

2016-09-02 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
There is no related IPR that I am aware of. From: Dapeng Liu [mailto:maxpass...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 10:47 AM To: draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-par...@ietf.org Cc: dmm Subject: IPR call for draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-params-02 All authors: please reply to this

Re: [DMM] DMM FPC I-D - Implementation

2016-08-29 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
/wiki/System_Architecture_Evolution I think you are confused by the SDN approaches in the control plane in 3GPP. However, 3GPP decided not to pursue SDN. But they will pursue NFV instead. FYI. Regards, Behcet On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] wrote: > All, > > > > Last week at the I

[DMM] DMM FPC I-D - Implementation

2016-08-26 Thread Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
All, Last week at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco (US), Intel and Sprint demonstrated a virtual Evolved Packet Core (vEPC) that included, amongst other features, a SGW and PGW (3GPP functions similar to MAG and LMA). This software 1. Used a Separated Control and Dataplane Nod