Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-18 Thread karagian
] demand for DMM traffic steering Alper, What we broadly agreed in Nov/Mar IETF's (based on offline discussion) to go with a design group approach. Approach of Individual I-D's, comparing them, selecting the best will go no where, IMO. There are like dozen proposal on the table. With that goal

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Marco Liebsch
Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:sgund...@cisco.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2014 06:37 To: Marco Liebsch; Hirschman, Brent B [CTO]; Alper Yegin Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Hi Marco, If there should be the use of word, Anchor in access DPA term is a minor

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Intense reading… :-) Lot of abstractions, which I can only follow by relating to specific solutions. In my understanding, what Sri is describing is about how to apply UP/CP separation to various DMM solutions. In the examples I see a number of DMM solutions defined with UP/CP separation using

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
] brent.hirsch...@sprint.commailto:brent.hirsch...@sprint.com, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.orgmailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org Cc: dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering I am only about functions, not picky about terms

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
I do not know your definition of approach vs solution, but one can argue DMM itself is about a deployment model and an approach. I always insisted its less of a protocol work and more about a tying many aspects. So, what we have been discussing is a solution approach which has the essential

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Hi, Just to be sure that we are on the same page…. De : dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Envoyé : jeudi 17 juillet 2014 06:37 À : Marco Liebsch; Hirschman, Brent B [CTO]; Alper Yegin Cc : dmm

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Sri, PMIP is a solution. You can apply SDN approach to it by splitting CP and DP. For example, a draft like draft-bernardos-dmm-pmip-03 talks about access network anchoring. And you can apply SDN to it (as you already mentioned jun your examples on this thread), or not. Alper On Jul

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
-14AA394AEDEE.png Sri From: Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:39 PM To: Sri Gundavelli sgund...@cisco.com Cc: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eu, dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri, PMIP is a solution. You

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
...@yegin.org Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:06 PM To: Sri Gundavelli sgund...@cisco.commailto:sgund...@cisco.com Cc: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eumailto:marco.lieb...@neclab.eu, dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-16 Thread Ryuji Wakikawa
alper.ye...@yegin.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:01 AM To: Sri Gundavelli sgund...@cisco.com Cc: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eu, dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri, I was asking about that for the sake of getting all of the details

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-16 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Ryuji, We need to capture this discussion. Goal for next week is for all to agree on few things and write-up some text right there Š. Regards Sri On 7/16/14 12:03 AM, Ryuji Wakikawa ryuji.wakik...@gmail.com wrote: Sri and all I didn¹t capture all the discussion, but I agree with your

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-16 Thread Jouni Korhonen
...@yegin.org Cc: dmm@ietf.org mailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org mailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri, I think this matches my description and model very well. For traffic steering I consider the MN’s current Home DPA of particular relevance, without looking further

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-16 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
...@sprint.commailto:brent.hirsch...@sprint.com, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.orgmailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org Cc: dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri, please see inline. From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:sgund

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-15 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
steering Hi Sri, Thanks for your prompt response. please see inline. From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:sgund...@cisco.com] Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 19:46 To: Marco Liebsch; dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Hi Marco, I think we may have

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-15 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri and Marco, Is any of what you are describing captured in the existing drafts? If so, please provide the pointers. Alper ___ dmm mailing list dmm

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-14 Thread Marco Liebsch
Hi Sri, Thanks for your prompt response. please see inline. From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:sgund...@cisco.com] Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 19:46 To: Marco Liebsch; dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Hi Marco, I think we may have to qualify the term anchor

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-14 Thread Marco Liebsch
being about the home anchor. Regards Sri From: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eumailto:marco.lieb...@neclab.eu Date: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:59 AM To: dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Folks, I would like

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-12 Thread Alper Yegin
anchors, and selection being about the home anchor. Regards Sri From: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eu Date: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:59 AM To: dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Folks, I would like to discuss the demand for DMM traffic

[DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-11 Thread Marco Liebsch
Folks, I would like to discuss the demand for DMM traffic steering as preparation for Toronto. DMM enables smart deployment and selection of network components serving as User-Plane anchor to the mobile node. The MN's IP address or prefix (HNP/HoA) is assigned to the selected anchor and bound

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-11 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
@ietf.orgmailto:dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Folks, I would like to discuss the demand for DMM traffic steering as preparation for Toronto. DMM enables smart deployment and selection of network components serving as User-Plane anchor to the mobile node. The MN’s IP

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-11 Thread karagian
Aan: Marco Liebsch; dmm@ietf.org Onderwerp: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Hi Marco, I think we may have to qualify the term anchor. In our conf calls we used the terms, Control Plane Anchor (CPA), Data Plane Anchor (DPA) with Home/Access prefix tags. At the start of a session