On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 17:04:39 +0100
poitr pogo lepo...@gmail.com wrote:
s6 advertises itself as init replacement.
I'm not using s6 or daemontools. I do not need them. Just learned
about them and I'm bit surprised thy tend to replace init instead of
being a good helpers for those who need them.
Hi Scooby,
It's not ready yet--it's not yet ABI-compatible with libudev (but it is
API-compatible--Kay Sievers' tests pass when recompiled).
Some background for the rest of the list. I've managed to extract the
required variables, macros, and headers from systemd 219 to make libudev
compile
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:24:51 +0800
Robert Storey robert.sto...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for telling us about this. I hadn't heard of daemontools
before.
I did an apt-cache show daemontools and interestingly it suggests
runit. I presume that Devuan will at least include daemontools and
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 12:31:04 +
Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:15 PM, poitr pogo lepo...@gmail.com
wrote:
S6 even forces such a program must not handle daemon mode itself.
That process must not background itself: being run by a
supervision
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 14:52:47 +0100
poitr pogo lepo...@gmail.com wrote:
Cannot.
Cannot what?
This is from the s6 docs. I'm not using s6. Just heard about
it today.
I sure can't accuse you of procrastinating in forming an opinion.
Another s6 limitation - finish script must end in 3
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:15 PM, poitr pogo lepo...@gmail.com wrote:
S6 even forces such a program must not handle daemon mode itself.
That process must not background itself: being run by a
supervision tree already makes it a background task.
I don't know its innards, but i find it
Le 28/03/2015 05:53, John Morris a écrit :
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 16:37 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hi John,
When I wrote anti-freedom, I considered a stricter definition of
freedom than GPL, beyond free access to the source and gratuitous
redistribution, including e.g. the absence
Cannot. This is from the s6 docs. I'm not using s6. Just heard about it today.
Another s6 limitation - finish script must end in 3 seconds. or will be killed.
Nice for desktop, not a server.
It used to be that an application is responsible for proper start
up/shutdown procedure, as application
Thanks for telling us about this. I hadn't heard of daemontools before.
I did an apt-cache show daemontools and interestingly it suggests
runit. I presume that Devuan will at least include daemontools and
possibly runit, which should be a fascinating combination to play with.
Can't wait to get
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
(...)
If you want to *manage* a daemon (ie, do something when it stops, like
restarting it), it's very tricky to do it reliably without having a fixed
It might be tricky if application does not support startup/shutdown
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:33:34PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 28/03/2015 05:53, John Morris a écrit :
Trying to take the high moral ground and claim to be shooting for a
stricter freedom is what leads to RMS and Debian unable to agree on
which is the more 'Free.' Debian rejecting the
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 02:52:47PM +0100, poitr pogo wrote:
(in response to the question of why s6 prevents daemonizing)
Cannot. This is from the s6 docs. I'm not using s6. Just heard about it today.
If you want to *manage* a daemon (ie, do something when it stops, like
restarting it), it's very
Hey Poitr,
s6 advertises itself as init replacement.
No, S6, runit, daemontools, etc advertise as supervisor tools. Some of
these, like S6, are also a sane init replacement, should you want to go
this way.
I'm not using s6 or daemontools. I do not need them.
Some people do need them. We do a
IMHO s6/daemontools and similar tools are just a helpers.
That is *exactly* what they are.
They help to run as a unix daemon a program which is not written to be
a unix daemon.
No, sorry, you are wrong. They are supervisors, and as such they ensure any
long-running job keeps running when it
Le 28/03/2015 17:04, poitr pogo a écrit :
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
(...)
If you want to *manage* a daemon (ie, do something when it stops, like
restarting it), it's very tricky to do it reliably without having a fixed
It might be tricky if
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Martijn Dekkers
devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk wrote:
(...)
They help to run as a unix daemon a program which is not written to be
a unix daemon.
No, sorry, you are wrong. They are supervisors, and as such they ensure any
long-running job keeps running when it
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