[DNG] A Devuan install CD.

2015-11-06 Thread Scienceof Atomics
A quick thought. Would it be possible and/or desirable for the end result of the dev1fanboy process to be captured as an image and used to create a short Devuan Install CD (not DVD)? This probably belongs on the Devuan website, but I've been following this mailing list because of mutual i

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-06 Thread Sam
On 07/11/15 15:23, Go Linux wrote: > > > On Fri, 11/6/15, Sam wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring > minimalism > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Friday, November 6, 2015, 11:17 PM > > [snip] > >>

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-06 Thread Sam
On 07/11/15 15:23, Go Linux wrote: > > > On Fri, 11/6/15, Sam wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring > minimalism > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Friday, November 6, 2015, 11:17 PM > > [snip] > >>

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-06 Thread Go Linux
On Fri, 11/6/15, Sam wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, November 6, 2015, 11:17 PM [snip] > But reinstating those was in principle easy owing to the

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-06 Thread Sam
On 04/11/15 07:21, dev1fan...@use.startmail.com wrote: > Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring > minimalism. > > There are a lot of people talking about minimalism in Devuan and > some may be wondering if they can upgrade to Devuan. The answer is > yes, you can upgrade to Devua

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 09:02:53PM +0200, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > I rarely boot my servers maybe one or two servers in week or so, and if your > running a server grade hardware, it takes forever to boot. My laptop, I just > get it to sleep.  Indeed, production servers here are mostly IBM System X

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 6 November 2015 at 00:14, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Jokes apart, starting daemons in parallel is simply faster when you > have several cores. I do care booting fast. > > Didier > > Guys, seriously, how many times do you boot your computers in a day, 10? 20? 50? If it is that much, then

Re: [DNG] Devuan on top of OpenVZ

2015-11-06 Thread Hoshpak
Hi Emiliano, Am 06.11.2015 um 17:00 schrieb Emiliano Marini: > I have plans to migrate my OpenVZ powered VPS from Wheezy to Devuan 1.0 > Jessie following dev1fanboy's guide. > > Has someone tried Devuan on an OpenVZ container? I haven't tried Devuan specifically but upgrading between different di

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 05:43:43PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Simon Hobson writes: > > [...] > > > Besides, (on bare metal) there's all that BIOS stuff that happens > > before the OS even gets a look-in - I sometimes wonder if Dell and HP > > have a competition on how long they can make thi

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Hobson writes: [...] > Besides, (on bare metal) there's all that BIOS stuff that happens > before the OS even gets a look-in - I sometimes wonder if Dell and HP > have a competition on how long they can make this process ! That may (in absence of "hardware RAID") be simply to fix: Disable

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread Simon Hobson
Rainer Weikusat wrote: > ... but the conclusion is "Whoever believes parallelization beyond starpar > will improve 'booting speed' for this machine is sadly mistaken". I've done no measurements, but my "gut feeling" is that for the servers I manage (and my OS X laptop), the limiting factor is

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-06 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 09:37:40PM -, dev1fan...@use.startmail.com wrote: > Of course it's not mandatory to reboot after an upgrade. There is a > reason for instructing a reboot in this case - to avoid any > potential problems with drivers that need to be reinstalled. This > way they can test t

Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd

2015-11-06 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 05/11/2015 20:05, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : [...] >> Worrying about 'starting servers in parallell' only makes sense if >> there's a real-world situation where this demonstrably makes a relevant >> difference. [...] > Jokes apart, starting daemons in parallel is si

[DNG] Devuan on top of OpenVZ

2015-11-06 Thread Emiliano Marini
Hi people, I have plans to migrate my OpenVZ powered VPS from Wheezy to Devuan 1.0 Jessie following dev1fanboy's guide. Has someone tried Devuan on an OpenVZ container? Greetings, Emiliano. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.d

Re: [DNG] laptop beeps

2015-11-06 Thread Rob Owens
You could 'rmmod pcspkr' -- that'll fix it! - Original Message - > From: "Hendrik Boom" > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:55:37 PM > Subject: [DNG] laptop beeps > Every now and then my laptop beeps. It happens approximately once a > minute, although it is not

Re: [DNG] Status of Devuan Project by Alberto Zuin

2015-11-06 Thread Emiliano Marini
Thanks for sharing. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Go Linux wrote: > Exciting to see Devuan's first public presentation. Loved when the room > erupted into laughter about 1 minute in at the mention of systemd!! > > golinux > > > On Thu, 11/5/15, Lin

Re: [DNG] MS & RH team up on Azure cloud

2015-11-06 Thread Emiliano Marini
Hi Mark, I put something like that you said in one of my posts: "The Bazaar has become Cathedral" http://www.linuxito.com/15-miscelaneo/478-el-bazar-se-ha-convertido-en-catedral Maybe freedom of developers it's more important than freedom of code. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Mark Purcell

Re: [DNG] Distrowatch

2015-11-06 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM, wrote: > On 151105-21:19-0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:18:42 + >> Nuno Magalhães wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:49 AM, wrote: >> > > >> > > It is very unlikely that Gentoo would switch to systemd. >> > >> > I sure hope so, it and

Re: [DNG] Distrowatch

2015-11-06 Thread miro . rovis
On 151105-21:19-0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:18:42 + > Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:49 AM, wrote: > > > > > > It is very unlikely that Gentoo would switch to systemd. > > > > I sure hope so, it and slackware are my current distros of choice ever >