Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, The manpage's source file, netman.1, is ready and I also added netman.1.gz to netman's sources. I can instruct netman-backend.install to copy netman.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1. What should I do? Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I think, the manpage should be part of netman-backend as this is a dependency of netman-gui. Where in the source's tree should I place the source for the manpage and in what format should this file be? I can manually create a netman-backend.manpages file. Edward On 30/01/2016, Rainer

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Ozi Traveller
+1 yes please! On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Rainer H. Rauschenberg < rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > >

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) >>> >>> The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should >>> NEVER appear in any Devuan venue. Ever. >>> > > > ..either way, > I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-30 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 29/01/16 23:07, richard lucassen wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:54:22 + > I'm very pleased to see that someone is building a libsystemdfree > xorg. > But what about security updates? We will track debians security updates and where an update to a package that we maintain comes out, we

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like slugs, bugs, rats, bullshit, bad coffee, or cyanide. I just don't want to have anything to do with it, and

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:23:02 +, hellekin wrote in message <56acab26.8070...@dyne.org>: > On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > > > > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. > > I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like

[DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Haines Brown
I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid installation systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface from wlan0 to wlp3s0.

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 1/30/16, Haines Brown wrote: Subject: [DNG] systemd is haunting me To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 6:26 PM I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:05:02 +0100 (CET), Rainer wrote in message : > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > >

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Mitt Green
‎Haines Brown wrote: >systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface >f‎rom wlan0 to wlp3s0. I highly recommend to use udev from Wheezy/Jessie on Unstable and pin the package ("apt hold udev"). Vdev one day will be our default device manager anyway. The correct way to prevent a

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-30 Thread Robert Storey
> From: Clarke Sideroad > To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" > Subject: Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires > libsystemd0 > Message-ID: <56ac51e1.6020...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > In a similar

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500, Haines wrote in message <20160131002648.gg8...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info>: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after

[DNG] Wifi device names: was systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid > installation

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Mitt Green
Go Linux wrote:>Needless to say, I am NOT going to install it.Why not then pin libsystemd0 two times,both "old APT" and "new APT (>1.1)" ways?As we have been discussing pinning for a while now,you probably have seen the "new way."Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos isnot possible yet

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after [snip] > Systemd is not on the system, so