Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

When I used Delphi it had a predefined number type specifically for financial calculations. This was the Currency type. Currency = int64 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/182475/how-to-avoid-rounding-problems-when-comparing-currency-values-in-delphi On 04/08/2016, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

On 04.08.2016 02:06, Daniel Reurich wrote: > So should we respond by saying that "We don't use or encourage the use > of systemd-shim in Devuan. Our approach is to rebuild the packages > which in debian depend on systemd, without that dependency instead." Maybe also add: "systemd-shim is only

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 23:38:28 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 03/08/2016 15:25, Go Linux a écrit : > > Hope to see you there soon > > > > @KatolaZ - Did not know about using port so I got to learn > > something too! Now I need to figure out where to make that > > setting . . .

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

On 31.07.2016 21:55, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..appears "we" are "upgrading" Chromium to GTK3 now: > http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/chromium-browser/chromium-browser_52.0.2743.82-4_changelog if they only would drop the internal widget toolkit adaption layer ... --mtx

Re: [DNG] OT: tiny widget toolkit [Was: Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3]

On 02.07.2016 09:36, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I don't know if fltk is at all relevant in this matter; it seems to > be a simpple thing, although it is saddled wth C++ Exactly that's the problem. And it doesn't actually seem to be suitable for running directly on DRM. --mtx

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

On 03.08.2016 23:58, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Floating-point just isn't accurate enough. Multiple-precision scaled > fixed-point would work, even if it's binary. The limited precision isn't the actual problem, but the strictly defined rounding rules. To be financially accurate, you'll have to

Re: [DNG] Oh, how I hate systemd

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:35 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Rowland Penny (by way of Rowland Penny > ) writes: > > So, a user was complaining over on the > Samba mailing list, that the > > Samba wiki page about

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

On Wed, 8/3/16, Rick Moen wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] IRC Channel To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016, 6:33 PM Quoting Go Linux (goli...@yahoo.com): > @KatolaZ - Did not know about using port so I got to learn > something too! Now I need to

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

So should we respond by saying that "We don't use or encourage the use of systemd-shim in Devuan. Our approach is to rebuild the packages which in debian depend on systemd, without that dependency instead." Regards, Daniel. On 04/08/16 09:12, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: >

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

Quoting Go Linux (goli...@yahoo.com): > @KatolaZ - Did not know about using port so I got to learn > something too! Now I need to figure out where to make that setting . > . . there are so many things I don;t know . . . For irssi and many other IRC clients, port number can be specified as

Re: [DNG] Multiarch issues

And, for anyone interested, here is the output of aptitude after the backports repository has been disabled: $ sudo aptitude install libgtkhtml-4.0-0:i386 The following NEW packages will be installed: at-spi2-core{a} glib-networking:i386{a} libaspell15:i386{ab} libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386{a}

Re: [DNG] Multiarch issues

Enabling the backports repository seems to be even worse as aptitude now wants to remove all sorts of things. Here is what I get: $ sudo aptitude install libgtkhtml-4.0-0:i386 The following NEW packages will be installed: at-spi2-core{a} glib-networking:i386{a} libaspell15:i386{ab}

Re: [DNG] Multiarch issues

* On 2016 03 Aug 03:28 -0500, KatolaZ wrote: > I currently have both amd64 and i386 in multiarch, but don't have > libgtkhtml installed, so I haven't had the opportunity to replicate > your issue. Do you have jessie-updates and Debian Jessie backports in > your sources.list? I do have

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > Good post Steve :^) I was reading the GAO report already back in May, > very interesting. Scaringly enough all rethoric goes bashing what's > old, a myopic prerogative of the startup-innovation-hype. Very > surprising to see there is no critical voice in the

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:51:32PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > COBOL has fixed point base 10 operations, which is mandatory for > financial computation. C hasn't. I've heared that, in the US at least, > floating point operations are illegal in the finance area. The only other > language I

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

Le 03/08/2016 15:25, Go Linux a écrit : On Wed, 8/3/16, aitor_czr wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] IRC Channel To: "KatolaZ" , "dng" Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016, 7:59 AM Aitor, according to the screenshot, you are

Re: [DNG] Multiarch issues

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 08:30:19PM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:26:51 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 07:20:58AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > > Not sure about this, but is it possible that you can't have two > > >

[DNG] Fwd: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Forwarded Message Subject: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:12:02 + Resent-From: Martin Pitt Resent-To: debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, w...@debian.org

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

Yup - COBOL is a really good niche market for programmers. On 8/3/16 3:50 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: Steve Litt wrote: At first I almost vomited when reading this sentence: The Social Security Administration, for

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 02:41:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Politics of IT in the U.S. government > > http://www.itworld.com/article/3103585/government-it/politics-blamed-for-feds-reliance-on-old-it.html > > Hi all, > > In the preceding article, put away all the politics: That's not the >

Re: [DNG] Politics of IT in the U.S. government

Steve Litt wrote: > At first I almost vomited when reading this sentence: > > > The Social Security Administration, for instance, has more than 60 > million lines of Cobol, >

Re: [DNG] Oh, how I hate systemd

Rowland Penny (by way of Rowland Penny ) writes: > So, a user was complaining over on the Samba mailing list, that the > Samba wiki page about creating a new AD DC wasn't much use with fedora. > > I set up fedora 24 and tried to give it a fixed ip

Re: [DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:09:11AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > If you need Pulse for Skype, you can use apulse instead. > It would be great to have apulse packaged in Ascii... HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at]

Re: [DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 05:56:38 -0500 hal wrote: > Pics 4, 5 and 6 show the Mumble configuration. I don't have "oss" > anything installed, so not sure why that's showing up. Anyone know > which of these I should pick? ALSA or Pulse? Unless I have a very specific reason for

Re: [DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

On 03-08-16 12:56, hal wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to get Mumble working on my Devuan system for months. I'm a little confused as I seem to have 3 sound cards in my computer (1.png at link below). I'm not sure where alsamixer is getting all these because I'm only runinng off the on-board

Re: [DNG] Oh, how I hate systemd

On 08/03/2016 06:49 AM, Rowland Penny (by way of Rowland Penny ) wrote: You couldn't make this up, why O why make /etc read only ? For server hardening, sometimes partitions are mounted r/o or with special flags (eg: noexec, nosuid) in order to make it more

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

Ugh, the formatting seems to be fucked in http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html Sorry about that, I'll have to look into that today. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Katolaz, > > On 08/03/2016 02:00 PM, KatolaZ >

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

On Wed, 8/3/16, aitor_czr wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] IRC Channel To: "KatolaZ" , "dng" Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016, 7:59 AM >> Aitor, according to the screenshot, you are connected to "DALnet", >> which is the wrong

Re: [DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

On 08/03/2016 06:56 AM, hal wrote: > Hi all, > I've been trying to get Mumble working on my Devuan system for months. I'm a > little confused as I seem to have 3 sound cards in my computer (1.png at link > below). I'm not sure where alsamixer is getting all these because > I'm only runinng off

[DNG] Oh, how I hate systemd

So, a user was complaining over on the Samba mailing list, that the Samba wiki page about creating a new AD DC wasn't much use with fedora. I set up fedora 24 and tried to give it a fixed ip (part of which was removing networkmanager), set everything up and rebooted, I then found I couldn't

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

Hi Katolaz, On 08/03/2016 02:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:25:21AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > >Hi golinux, > >On 08/03/2016 10:27 AM, Go Linux wrote: > >>> >Hi all, > >>> > I recently wrote a message in the IRC Channel #devuan,

Re: [DNG] Go Linux <goli...@yahoo.com>

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016, KatolaZ wrote: > > host: irc.freenode.org > port: 6667 (or if you want to use SSL - recommended) > > then once you are in, join the channel "#devuan" and/or > #debianfork. > > Since you said you are an IRC novice, I guess you might find this > tutorial useful: > >

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: >Assuming you are in #devuan on freenode, I don't see any current settings >on the channel that would be likely to stop you from speaking there. there was a glitch on the network of our IRC server yesterday, maybe that's what was it? I got

Re: [DNG] IRC Channel

Assuming you are in #devuan on freenode, I don't see any current settings on the channel that would be likely to stop you from speaking there. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 7:26 PM aitor_czr wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently wrote a message in the IRC Channel #devuan, but it

[DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

Hi all, I've been trying to get Mumble working on my Devuan system for months. I'm a little confused as I seem to have 3 sound cards in my computer (1.png at link below). I'm not sure where alsamixer is getting all these because I'm only runinng off the on-board audio plugins. "Default" in

Re: [DNG] The systemd OS

Go Linux wrote on 08/02/2016 03:58 PM: > > It was perfectly obvious the direction things were heading. Still pisses me > off . . . > Notice the cast of characters: oracle, redhat, ibm, etc, etc. I wonder why the need for all the branding with a talking head video?

[DNG] Go Linux <goli...@yahoo.com>

Hi golinux, On 08/03/2016 10:27 AM, Go Linux wrote: > >Hi all, > > I recently wrote a message in the IRC Channel #devuan, but > it doesn't appear. > > Am i doing something wrong..., or something well? > >Aitor.

Re: [DNG] Multiarch issues

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 07:20:58AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: [cut] > > When I look at the Debian Web package for the Jessie package of > > libgtkhtml-4.0-common, it is shown as architecture 'all'. Even trying > > to install the amd64 (default for my system) doesn't help. > > > > Is this a