Re: [DNG] Help with ALSA, Pulseaudio and Mumble on Devuan

Steve Litt wrote on 08/03/2016 10:09 AM: > > I usually de-install all of Pulseaudio. > Thanks for all the input everyone! I've removed pulse and have only ALSA now. It's working much, much better. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] C Obfuscated code: a virtue or a vice?

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:12:26 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160715091226.GA27441@reflex>: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > You misunderstand what the IOCCC is about. It's a game. Nobody > > trying to write useful code will do anything like what IOCCC writes. > > well, I

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:05:51 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160712110551.gt18...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian > > is falling apart, for details, run:

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:33:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160713133358.GA22089@reflex>: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, dev wrote: > > > tasks. Why these devs do these things is beyond reason. > > the main reason is that they are lazy and cannot bother to work their > way against the trend. you

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:44:01 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160712114401.GA27051@reflex>: > On Fri, 08 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..this clearly is where we could have used a http://groklaw.net/ > > style website. > > Groklaw was great not because of the website, but because of the

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

On 09/08/16 06:03, Go Linux wrote: I posted a link to this response at the FDN link posted above. This was the response from the author of the howto: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=621972#p621972 He concludes: ". . . I would prefer to use the systemd-supplied components

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

On Sun, 8/7/16, Adam Borowski wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs. To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 7, 2016, 9:42 PM On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 06:31:10PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: >>

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi, On 08/08/2016 08:16 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote: >On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000 >Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > >>These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a >>Devuan desktop

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi, On 08/08/2016 08:16 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote: >On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000 >Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > >>These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a >>Devuan desktop

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

Quoting Jack L. Frost (f...@fleshless.org): > No. The way you use ls in scripts is you don't. > http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs Amen to that. That's why this entire thread's more than a bit silly. Use file(1) for that purpose, for heaven's sake. -- Cheers, Grossman's Law:

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

Personally, I only need to use `for f in /dir/*`. Failing that, `echo /dir/*` (possibly piped through xargs) works too. `ls` seems to be more for human eyes than scripting anyway. All the modes, etc. should really be read through `stat`. But when you're just starting out, you probably don't

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Debian was dilligent enough to revert the patch (half a year ago). Half a year ago? If that's true, then this must be old news, and I apologize. However, the messages concerning coreutils changes only appeared in my inbox

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote: > On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000 > Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > >> These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a >> Devuan desktop installation. > > Thnx! I wonder what will happen if I use the deb

Re: [DNG] Debian install

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:23:24 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > > I think this question can be removed?: > > > > "Participate in the package usage survey?" > > It's opt-in, and provides useful data. It's ok for me, but Devuan != Debian -- richard lucassen

Re: [DNG] Debian install

On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:30:32PM +0200, richard lucassen wrote: > On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200 > richard lucassen wrote: > > I think this question can be removed?: > > "Participate in the package usage survey?" It's opt-in, and provides useful data. -- An

Re: [DNG] Debian install

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:30:32 +0200 richard lucassen wrote: I think this package selection option can be removed?: "Gnome" -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Debian install

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200 richard lucassen wrote: I think this question can be removed?: "Participate in the package usage survey?" -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:11:01 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a > Devuan desktop installation. Thnx! I wonder what will happen if I use the deb files from: http://packages.gnuinos.org/pool/main/v/vdev/ I

Re: [DNG] Debian install

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:58:01 +0200 richard lucassen wrote: > The Devuan netinstall iso says: > > "A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian > GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]" > > s/Debian/Devuan/ And when asked for a *manual* mirror:

[DNG] Debian install

The Devuan netinstall iso says: "A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]" s/Debian/Devuan/ R. -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] vdev

These are my step notes for replacing systemd-udev with vdev in a Devuan desktop installation. 1) Devuan CD installation: with DE, Xfce, printer server, ssh server and standard utilities. This typically red-screens me once during the package installation, but works fine when repeating the step.

Re: [DNG] libvirt - can't create snapshot

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:37:54 +1000, Ralph wrote in message <5d50b9d2-8420-138b-525f-b19ab51f8...@gmail.com>: > In my experience, there's no need to be root for creating and running > libvirt VM's. I needed to be root only to set up the VDE host-only > network for them to attach to, and then all

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Brian Nash wrote: > I'm not sure on the specifics of the change, but for most scripted uses > you would probably pass it the `-1` flag anyway. > > If it doesn't list one file per line anymore, that could be quite > serious: we would need to use `dir`

Re: [DNG] KVM/ksm: was SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

On 08/08/16 14:17, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:00:48 +0800 Brad Campbell wrote: Just for the record, so does KVM if you turn on ksm. It actually works very well for a free solution. I use Qemu all the time, with hardware assist. How would I turn on

[DNG] KVM/ksm: was SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:00:48 +0800 Brad Campbell wrote: > Just for the record, so does KVM if you turn on ksm. It actually > works very well for a free solution. I use Qemu all the time, with hardware assist. How would I turn on ksm? SteveT Steve Litt August 2016

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

On 08/08/16 13:44, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 06:31:10PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: On the other hand, full-machine virtualization costs you the max of assigned memory to that system, at all time. Going off-topic but I just wanted to correct this statement,