Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

I wrote: > As it happens, as I mentioned, I just recently bought (to play with) a > reconditioned Zotac CI321 w/4GB RAM and a 64GB SSD for US $125 with 1 > year warranty from Zotac after John Franklin mentioned the Zotac > C-series here. (TY, John!) It has the Intel ME and Intel FSM problems,

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On 11/02/2017 09:47 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: Yes, I know, they failed disabling ME and they stopped even trying. Their website/marketing says that it is "disabled" when it isn't. Purism has gone farther than anyone though possible just two years ago They didn't make ME_cleaner or

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

In the interest of not starting a big argument again this will by my last reply on this thread. On 11/02/2017 01:14 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: They are fully worth it. Certainly not for the price they are charging, for $2K one could buy 5 Lenovo G505S laptops which are owner controlled

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

>> Coreboot does load blobs for certain devices, so it shouldn't be any >> surprise that coreboot supports librem. > They did not lie about this. Hmm... Doesn't it seem odd though that they call themselves purism and haven't fully removed the intel ME stuff...? I dunno, it just seems fishy to

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > Very well then, > https://libreboot.org/faq.html#will-the-purism-laptops-be-supported > > that is one perfect example. If it were possible, I think libreboot > would have said something by now about the intel_me cleaner making it > possible. This is

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 at 20:46:58 -0400 zap wrote: > On 11/02/2017 07:35 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 at 15:03:36 -0400 >> zap wrote: >> Prove it.

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On 11/02/2017 08:28 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > I wrote: > >> Coreboot itself is free software but by design hosts proprietary >> plugins. In that regard, it differs from its militantly free software >> fork libreboot, which of course in consequence supports much less >> software. > > > I

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On 11/02/2017 07:35 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 at 15:03:36 -0400 > zap wrote: > >>> Prove it. >>> >>> https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ >> Something tells me you won't accept any other answer

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

I wrote: > Coreboot itself is free software but by design hosts proprietary > plugins. In that regard, it differs from its militantly free software > fork libreboot, which of course in consequence supports much less > software. I meant hardware. And I'd still appreciate it if

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 at 15:03:36 -0400 zap wrote: > > > Prove it. > > > > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ > Something tells me you won't accept any other answer except your own, so > I will pass. I take any

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

> Prove it. > > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ Something tells me you won't accept any other answer except your own, so I will pass. > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > https://puri.sm/faq/ > > Technical & Advanced > Can I buy a Librem with a proprietary BIOS/UEFI? > > No. We ship with the free software firmware coreboot. We don’t ship Librem 13 > or Librem 15 with any proprietary BIOS/UEFI. (Note: This

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 23:30:45 -0400 zap wrote: > >>> You might consider the Purism laptops, one of which has a detachable >>> keyboard.  https://puri.sm/products/ >> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/ >> >> They

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

On 2017-11-02 10:39, Narcis Garcia wrote: Because, any other jokes or ultra-developed threads are just off-topic and making subscribers to unsubscribe some day. ___ Yes, these long useless threads where everyone tries to have the last word push

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

El 02/11/17 a les 14:58, zap ha escrit: > >> Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion >> and the joke may be offensive to some. > > I don't see why, but if it will keep peace then I will do so. But I wish > to know what you mean by political jokes... free

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

I propose ``alt.sysadmin.rehab''. On November 2, 2017 5:46:50 PM GMT+03:00, Jamey Fletcher wrote: >>> systemd is a reality, and making sad or smart jokes about it does >not >>> make it more palatable, or less of a threat. > >> yep, you are right systemd is a reality, I just

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

>> systemd is a reality, and making sad or smart jokes about it does not >> make it more palatable, or less of a threat. > yep, you are right systemd is a reality, I just needed to vent somehow. > and making my jokes is one way of doing so... Do we need to start alt.systemdadmin.recovery?

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

> Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion and > the joke may be offensive to some. I don't see why, but if it will keep peace then I will do so. But I wish to know what you mean by political jokes... free software has a political agenda too after all. so I

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

On November 1, 2017 5:12:53 PM GMT+03:00, zap wrote: >Also another slogan for systemd: "*The**Donald Trump**of **Init*!" Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion and the joke may be offensive to some. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^)

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

Hi, m712 writes: > On October 28, 2017 11:22:49 AM GMT+03:00, Rick Moen > wrote: >>(But sure, fixing the runit-init package >>would be a nice-to-have.) > I have a proposal for this. Basically, have an install script which does > something like this (I'm not familiar with

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird broken dependencies in security update

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 07:12:18AM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Hi, > there is a Thunderbird security update available in stable-security, which > updates Thunderbird from version 45 to 52. The thunderbird-l10n-* packages > still require version 45. > > apt-get output: > The following packages have

Re: [DNG] libvirt virt-manager permissions ?

On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:40:06 +1100 Fulano Diego Perez wrote: > anybody have advice about getting virt-manager working ? > > what are required perms for qcows ? > > always get similar errors on any debian distro except subgraph which > always works without changing

Re: [DNG] armhf support?

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:50:12 +0300 m712 wrote: > I want to install Debian Jessie via Linux Deploy on my Android device > (as a chroot), then migrate it to Devuan Jessie then ASCII. What's > the status on armhf architecture on Devuan? Anyone use it on an ARM > device?

[DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

Although I am pro-choice regarding software, I am one who actually tried to use systemd on a few occasions. However, I was every time disappointed by its performance. After that, I had to revert back to another init completely removing it in the process. This machine has Devuan ASCII installed

[DNG] Thunderbird broken dependencies in security update

Hi, there is a Thunderbird security update available in stable-security, which updates Thunderbird from version 45 to 52. The thunderbird-l10n-* packages still require version 45. apt-get output: The following packages have unmet dependencies: thunderbird-l10n-de : Depends: thunderbird (<