Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-19 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:01:02PM -0500, zap wrote: > there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I > cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs > were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free package. > so annoying. > >

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Jaromil
On 19 November 2017 21:14:26 CET, Didier Kryn wrote: >Conclusion: initscripts profides the infrastructure to invoke >/etc/rc.local if it exists, but it doesn't provide an empty >/etc/rc.local. Ok, this is what I hoped and it still makes sense. IMHO deprecation means vandalism

[DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-19 Thread zap
there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free package. so annoying. AR9271 is the firmware I was talking about. Thinkpenguin sells these,

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:30:36 +, Dave wrote in message <352aa878-82d2-bfbc-28be-e28f8d97f...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: > On 19/11/17 20:40, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:32:48 +, Dave wrote in message > >

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:32:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message > : > > > Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : > > > hi all > > > > > > Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Dave Turner
On 19/11/17 20:40, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:32:48 +, Dave wrote in message <755e8783-b399-2941-0d2d-40aac6629...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: On 19/11/17 14:10, Jaromil wrote: hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? I got this from

[DNG] ..we might want devuan, Devuan and DEVUAN files in fai and fai-doc, was: rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:14:26 +0100, Didier wrote in message <7a901cc9-3efe-6164-fbb7-0061ff894...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 19/11/2017 à 20:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > ..we have _some_ competition... ;o) > > > ~$ apt-file search /etc/rc.local > fai-doc:

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:32:07 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20171119203207.183fc35c@d44>: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message > : > > > Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : > > > hi all > > > > > > Can anyone clarify

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/11/2017 à 20:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message : Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9?     Dunno how

Re: [DNG] openrc init: Was Re: Please provide systemd-free libreswan package

2017-11-19 Thread Benda Xu
Hi all, Acknowledged! Could you elaborate the main feature of openrc-init that sysvinit does not have? Yours, Benda Svante Signell writes: > On Fri, 2017-11-17 at 08:42 -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > >> But I understand that the new versions of openrc

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Dave Turner
On 19/11/17 14:10, Jaromil wrote: hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? I got this from rumors in bitcoin's core development, since I'm not subscribed to Debian lists. The rumor is confirmed by some online debates on gitlab and stack overflow. Can someone

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message : > Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : > > hi all > > > > Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? > > > >     Dunno how difficult it is to re-create

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/11/2017 à 18:52, Didier Kryn a écrit : Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? I got this from rumors in bitcoin's core development, since I'm not subscribed to Debian lists. The rumor is confirmed by some online

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? I got this from rumors in bitcoin's core development, since I'm not subscribed to Debian lists. The rumor is confirmed by some online debates on gitlab and stack overflow. Can

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 17:43:04 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > IMHO thinking conspiracy is self defeating, And yet there ARE conspiracies. Most US antitrust laws are a reaction to price-fixing conspiracies of the late 1800's and early 1900's. I don't understand why a conspiracy theory

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Jaromil
hi Taiidan On 19 November 2017 17:11:27 CET, "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: >On 11/19/2017 09:10 AM, Jaromil wrote: >> is there any internal discussion about such governance issues in >> Debian? is there any hope the current leadership will change and >> perhaps repair what this

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/19/2017 09:10 AM, Jaromil wrote: is there any internal discussion about such governance issues in Debian? is there any hope the current leadership will change and perhaps repair what this vandalism is breaking? Am I the only one who thinks there is some kind of conspiracy here? I mean why

[DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Jaromil
hi all Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.local is being removed in Debian 9? I got this from rumors in bitcoin's core development, since I'm not subscribed to Debian lists. The rumor is confirmed by some online debates on gitlab and stack overflow. Can someone point out to the decision process