Quoting mett (m...@pmars.jp):
> by the way, what do u think about
> what is written on that page regarding
> logging?
>
> http://jdebp.eu./FGA/unix-daemon-design-mistakes-to-avoid.html
>
> I was thinking if there is a better
> way of logging, might be worth to try it.
You asked the above of
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 04:59:16PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> You were so thorough giving facts that I didn't understand your answer:
> Would you recommend using logger to transfer daemon stderr (and
> configurationally stdout) to the log files?
>
> You appeared (to me)
On 2018年10月23日 9:10:59 JST, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 07:37, Rick Moen wrote:
>> The mainstream choices (disregarding journald) in 2018 are rsyslog
>and
>> syslog-ng, period. A case could be made for either. I _think_
>> rsyslog remains more common. I've personally
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 07:37, Rick Moen wrote:
> The mainstream choices (disregarding journald) in 2018 are rsyslog and
> syslog-ng, period. A case could be made for either. I _think_
> rsyslog remains more common. I've personally only encountered
> syslog-ng in embedded logging appliances
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:10:35PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > >
> > > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent
> > > in
> > > (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and
> > >
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:01:01PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >
> > ..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest
> > distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o)
> >
> > ..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is
On 10/22/2018 02:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are?
Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live in a world they
built.
I'm 72. Still capable mentally, though I need a cane to walk long distances.
Don't need a cane to
On 10/22/2018 02:36 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
alternatives. As I said I have two machines there, one is wired to a big TV
so they who sit in a last row can listen & watch.
What is the other one wired to? A local small display?
Both of them have their own small displays, and the faster box
On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent in
(pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and
office. So my point is to show them that there are free & unrestricted
alternatives. As I said I have
On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest
distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o)
..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is also not Devuan, but an excellent way
to set up Devuan safely and securely in, er,
On 22/10/2018 21:59, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:08:57 +
> Daniel Abrecht wrote:
>
>> On 22/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote:
>>> Is logger just another sister of syslog-ng and rsyslog?
>>
Snip [Edited for brevity]
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> You were so thorough giving facts that I
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:08:57 +
Daniel Abrecht wrote:
> On 22/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Is logger just another sister of syslog-ng and rsyslog?
>
>
> logger does per default log to the system logger. That can be
> rsyslog, syslog-ng, or any other system syslog daemon, really
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Is logger just another sister of syslog-ng and rsyslog?
If we're talking about the same 'logger' tool, then no:
The Linux logger command provides an easy way to add log files to
/var/log/syslog — from the command line, from scripts, or
On 22/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote:
Is logger just another sister of syslog-ng and rsyslog?
logger does per default log to the system logger. That can be rsyslog,
syslog-ng, or any other system syslog daemon, really (with the exception
of journald, which does it's own thing.). This is
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:09:55 +0100, Simon wrote in message
<5f3ba84f-752c-4bee-b0c6-8e31b10f3...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o)
>
> TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for **usefully** using
> lots of
On 10/22/18 6:14 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have special,
fixed meaning. There is *currently* no way of naming a runlevel using
more than one character, due to the way the
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:23:09 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:16:30AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 21/10/2018 à 20:18, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > With runit, you can either use the "runit way" of recording log
> > > files, in which one looks in the
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o)
TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for **usefully** using lots of
runlevels.
To start with, (near enough) every package comes with a control script for rc
to use - and which contains comments to signal to
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:14:48 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20181022131448.c77g4mldzlcjv...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have
> > > special, fixed meaning.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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> > sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have special,
> > fixed meaning. There is *currently* no way of naming a runlevel using
> > more than one character, due to the way the "change runlevel"
> >
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:40:20 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20181022104020.acw7kg5hbcnfd...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message
> >
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:39:41PM +1100, terryc wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200
> Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> >
> > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average.
>
> Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are?
> Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:07:19PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> > > Machines can
> > > ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> > > introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
> > > like. Suggestions?
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message
> <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>:
>
> > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> > > I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in
Le 21/10/2018 à 23:18, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message
<826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>:
Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :
I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab;
the following line
You can use runit's own svlogd [1] and redirect everything to syslogd.
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:16:30AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 21/10/2018 à 20:18, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > With runit, you can either use the "runit way" of recording log files,
> > in which one looks in the daemon's run directory for something
> > called .main, or you can use
Le 21/10/2018 à 20:18, Steve Litt a écrit :
Hi all,
With runit, you can either use the "runit way" of recording log files,
in which one looks in the daemon's run directory for something
called .main, or you can use one of several logging programs. I'm using
logger, and a Devuan ASCII VM guest I
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