Re: [DNG] merging /tmp

2018-11-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/11/2018 à 22:41, Adam Borowski a écrit : On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:40:31PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:     In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions, but I'm questionning the validity of such a

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:18:53 -0600 Dan Pridgeon wrote: > I look forward to your "detailed > instructions" around this issue.  (Though retired out of the computer > test environment, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to the > collaborative development via the Internet environment.)  I'm

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:51 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Could you have /boot on a USB stick that you carry with you when not > at the computer? Oh my, this is an elegant solution! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] merging /tmp

2018-11-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.11.18 22:41, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:40:31PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > > >     In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions, > > > but I'm questionning the validity of

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread Harald Arnesen
spiralofhope [24.11.2018 22:17]: >> Drive encryption has advantages in terms of keeping secrets and >> foiling the evil-maid scenario. > I always thought an evil maid could fiddle with the bootloader/etc or > root to wholly compromise the system somewhat easily, and then it's > just a matter of

Re: [DNG] merging /tmp

2018-11-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:40:31PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > >     In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions, > > but I'm questionning the validity of such a setup. > > It's useful to have /tmp on a

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:45:56 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Drive encryption has advantages in terms of keeping secrets and > foiling the evil-maid scenario. I always thought an evil maid could fiddle with the bootloader/etc or root to wholly compromise the system somewhat easily, and then it's

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:21:01PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > It would be possible to share the ports tree on a FreeBSD system, since it's > mostly self-contained, so long as it's read-only (it has unshared data in > /var including the package database, so can't be read-write). But this is >

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:14:10PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > There are a million different ways to set up your computer. Preserving > those choices is why we use Linux instead of windoz and mac. In a > recent thread people have expressed love or disdain for various setups. > > Let

[DNG] merging /tmp

2018-11-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > >     In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions, > but I'm questionning the validity of such a setup. It's useful to have /tmp on a separate partition in case some process running amok fills it and

[DNG] Request for comments - training room

2018-11-24 Thread g4sra
I would appreciate advice on the following situation I have several hosts of differing architectures or peripherals in a training room (several training rooms actually but each are independent of each other) which are supported by a server running the standard *NIX network services DHCP, BIND

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread Dan Pridgeon
On 11/24/18 11:36 AM, spiralofhope wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 15:14:10 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: I don't yet run drive encryption, but may start. I encourage it. It's straightforward, and was surprisingly good performance for me, even on rust. I did it from scratch, prepping a whole drive

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/11/2018 à 13:13, Roger Leigh a écrit : (Like many, I used to routinely use a separate /usr on a separate partition, then LVM LV, until I really looked at the practice and questioned the real underlying problems which it was solving. I've not needed one in over a decade at this point. 

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 15:14:10 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > I don't yet run drive encryption, but may start. I encourage it. It's straightforward, and was surprisingly good performance for me, even on rust. I did it from scratch, prepping a whole drive and then copying data from elsewhere, and

Re: [DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
--- This is a bike shed topic for me. Incoming bullshittery. :) --- On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:15:39 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Now > what happens if I let go any belief that some of them are true or > right, preferably my own, and some of them are false or wrong, > preferably those of

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-24 Thread Clarke Sideroad
Roger, I appreciate you taking the time for the explanation of the flow of logic driving the developments. It adds some depth that the average user, like me is not normally exposed to. I remember doing installations with various partitions for directories, as much for coolness as anything,

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-24 Thread karl
Roger: ... > There's no clean separation between the "base" system and "everything else". ... I think my urge to have a separate /usr is that I want such a separation and there isn't a clear other place to have it. > The other part of the scenario you mentioned here is "doesn't want to > use

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-24 Thread Roger Leigh
On 24/11/2018 02:45, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:17:21 + Roger Leigh wrote: Some general points to consider: 1) A separate /usr serves no practical purpose on a Debian/Devuan system Historically, /usr was separately mountable, shareable over NFS. With a package

[DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness

2018-11-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear readers, After all what I let go and what I learned in the process of doing so, I totally agree with had I heard during some recordings I used. There are two essential aspects for any relationship: Mutuality and harmlessness. In the current discussions on this list I have seen a great