Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/4/19 23:20, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: So you only have to endure me another 18 days. 0 days, in my case, because I won't waste more time reading your messages. Good luck :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to the work on the conference documentation, I have started this website, soon to be linked by Devuan's official domain, served under TLS and completed with a list of

Re: [DNG] How to deploy an init.d script to Devuan 2.0 (ASCII)

2019-04-12 Thread Steffen Dettmer via Dng
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:54 PM Steffen Dettmer wrote: > /etc/rc2.d/S03ccucvm_startup_script > >(pointing to ../init.d/ccucvm_startup_script), > > [...] my script is not executed. I investigated further and I noticed that there are hidden files like "/etc/init.d/.depend-start" that seem to

[DNG] How to deploy an init.d script to Devuan 2.0 (ASCII)

2019-04-12 Thread Steffen Dettmer via Dng
Hi, At work I'm playing with Devuan in a VM supposed to replace embedded systems. These systems have special proprietary software which is deployed using a proprietary package manager, which unfortunately does not support executing scripts (such as postinstall). To start the proprietary

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread golinux
On 2019-04-12 16:27, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:33:18 +0300, Lars wrote in message : On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it > appears to say that one could choose systemd. > > We need to be clear that we

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:33:18 +0300, Lars wrote in message : > On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > [snip] > > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it > > appears to say that one could choose systemd. > > > > We need to be clear that we are promoting freedom by

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 12-04-19 12:15, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 23:52 +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: >> On 11-04-19 23:38, Daniel Reurich wrote: Have I missed something? I want Katolaz back. Who is CenturionDan? And why does he have that much power? >>> I am

Re: [DNG] devuan.pro works now.

2019-04-12 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/4/19 21:45, Hendrik Boom wrote: Seems to work now. Thanks to whoever did it. -- hendrik Yes, i was getting the same "Your connection is not secure" message, but now the website works :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] devuan.pro works now.

2019-04-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:35:35PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: ... > > > > Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to > > the work on the conference documentation, I have started this website, > > soon to be

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 06:09:46PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:24:39AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > > > "freedom of init

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:24:39AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > > "freedom of init choice"? > > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it appears > to say that one could choose systemd. > > We need to be clear that we are promoting freedom by providing > alternatives to systemd, and that users that choose systemd can >

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote: > > > I suggest we pass the following resolution: > > > > === > > At Devuan we prioritize benefits to individual users over

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno venerdì 12/04/2019 10:41:53 +0200 Antony Stone ha scritto: > On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote: > > > I suggest we pass the following resolution: > > [cut] > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > "freedom of init choice"?

Re: [DNG] [Fwd: Re: [devuan-dev] request of resignation of CenturionDan from caretaking]

2019-04-12 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
> On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 20:47 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > dear devs > > > > for having caused the distress of trust within the caretakers group > > beyond our agreed liabilities (see licensing conditions of Devuan) and > > having caused the (hopefully temporary) resignation of one caretaker > > and

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 23:52 +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 11-04-19 23:38, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > Have I missed something? I want Katolaz back. > > > Who is CenturionDan? And why does he have that much power? > > I am CenturionDan. I don't have any power over Devuan, and

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
On 2019-04-12 07:26, Jaromil wrote: > because I believe timing of this debate is crucial > I stayed up late yesterday night to put up a mock > up site without tls http://devuan.pro > just to signal we are moving forward, not backwards. indeed much to do before > announcing > first and foremost

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > "freedom of init choice"? > > I'nm not suggesting that we should include systemd in what Devuan provides > (!), but I just think the phrase "freedom of

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote: > I suggest we pass the following resolution: > > === > At Devuan we prioritize benefits to individual users over benefits to > corporations. Within the overarching umbrella of delivering >

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > because I believe timing of this debate is crucial > I stayed up late yesterday night to put up a mock > up site without tls http://devuan.pro > just to signal we are moving forward, not backwards. indeed much to do > before announcing first and foremost the

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Jaromil
because I believe timing of this debate is crucial I stayed up late yesterday night to put up a mock up site without tls http://devuan.pro just to signal we are moving forward, not backwards. indeed much to do before announcing first and foremost the TLS cert. the wording and style will be