Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread John Morris
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 14:07 -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > As an aside, gab.com has been working on its own alternative, but they > haven't released any details (or source code) and I wouldn't be > surprised if it became a paid service for significant use. They have already said it will be a paid

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread Mike Schmitz via Dng
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 11:23:24PM +, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Didier, > > On 4/9/20 10:19 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > Sorry for the typo. install *ifplugd* or an equivalent. > Another clarification: ifplugd depends on ifupdown and breaks with > ifupdown2. The > real culprit of the startup delay is

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Didier, On 4/9/20 10:19 PM, aitor_czr wrote: Sorry for the typo. install *ifplugd* or an equivalent. Another clarification: ifplugd depends on ifupdown and breaks with ifupdown2. The real culprit of the startup delay is ifupdown together with dhcp, and it's not caused by the time-out

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Didier, On 4/9/20 4:29 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 09/04/2020 à 18:16, Didier Kryn a écrit : Le 09/04/2020 à 16:13, dal a écrit : Hello and thanks for Beowulf. An issue: it looks like    devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_netinstall.iso    and the base system installable from it do not

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of laptop have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Tim Wallace via Dng
I bought a 2017 System76 laptop prior to Pop! creation, requesting Debian.  I had trouble connecting to wifi while on vacation a couple of years later, so went to Devuan, and it works great. My wife bought one from them last year (Gazelle) with Pop! and asks me why it drops the wifi signal

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 09/04/2020 à 18:16, Didier Kryn a écrit : Le 09/04/2020 à 16:13, dal a écrit : Hello and thanks for Beowulf. An issue: it looks like    devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_netinstall.iso    and the base system installable from it do not contain the ifupdown package (nor other networking

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 09/04/2020 à 16:13, dal a écrit : Hello and thanks for Beowulf. An issue: it looks like devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_netinstall.iso and the base system installable from it do not contain the ifupdown package (nor other networking utilities besides busybox ip?). The resulting

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of laptop have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Larry De Coste via Dng
Good morning terryc, On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:56:07 +1000 terryc wrote among other things: |This is a hardware question. |Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed |devuan onto? |How difficult was it? | |Thank You In Advance. I wasn't going to suggest it because I

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-09 Thread dal
Hello and thanks for Beowulf. An issue: it looks like devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_netinstall.iso and the base system installable from it do not contain the ifupdown package (nor other networking utilities besides busybox ip?). The resulting base installation remains offline. This is

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread ael
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 11:56:07AM +1000, terryc wrote: > > I have a strong preference to not pay the Microsoft Tax and not waste > my money on bits for which there are no linux drivers. Obviously > running Devuan is preferable. > > Unfortunately, there appears to be no local vendor of Linux

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 11:56:07AM +1000, terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? Purism's Librem 15, version 3. Comes with coreboot and the Intel Management engine disabled. No

Re: [DNG] Picking VM MAC addresses (was Re: A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?)

2020-04-09 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Olaf Meeuwissen wrote on 9/4/20 9:48 pm: > Hi, > > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng writes: > >> [...] >> btw, the MAC address choice has some rules apart from needing to be different >> from any other MAC address your networking will get to know of. My rule of >> thumb is to start with 04, end with 2,

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/9/20 3:05 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > I have received good service from them. They are in the UK, I'm in > Japan but that wasn't a problem. I got to them via the FSF's RYF > (Respects Your Freedom) site. You might want to check that out. https://minifree.org/ bankrupt, shutting

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, terryc writes: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? I bought a Libreboot T400 (refurbished Lenovo T400) from Minifree a couple of years ago. Typing this message from it right now ;-) I have received good

[DNG] Picking VM MAC addresses (was Re: A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?)

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng writes: > [...] > btw, the MAC address choice has some rules apart from needing to be different > from any other MAC address your networking will get to know of. My rule of > thumb is to start with 04, end with 2, and fill the middle "randomly", but > keep > the same

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Tito via Dng
Hi, 1 DELL LATITUDE D820 1 ASUS EEPC 1018PX they just work. Ciao, Tito On 4/9/20 3:56 AM, terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? > > Thank You In Advance. > > The long

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 09/04/2020 à 03:56, terryc a écrit : Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed devuan onto? How difficult was it?     Installing Devuan/Debian always requires some knowledge of Linux and experience of Debian is helpfull. You often need to have a few own tricks

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/8/20 9:03 PM, tom wrote: > I think it's pretty horrible for Jitsi to flat out block every other > browser than Chrome or Firefox. Jitsi "blocks" firefox too.. jitsi meet officially recommends only chromium-based browsers. work on firefox compatibility has started, but still nothing

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Eric Pozharski
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 11:03:39AM -0700, tom wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:34:19 +0300 > Dimitris via Dng wrote: >> On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: >>> OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of >>> something cloud based and written in Java ? >> >> jitsi can

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-04-09 Thread John Crisp via Dng
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:36:18 -0700 Richard Doyle via Dng wrote: > Good timing! WireGuard is in the kernel and version 1.0.0 has been > released. Devuan doesn't provide a package yet, but it is pretty easy > to build and install from source. I've been running it for months, > replacing OpenVPN

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:56:07 +1000 terryc wrote: > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? I have a $300 (CAD) Dell Inspiron 11 3180. According to my mid 2018 notes I tried Devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso and had issues with graphics being

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Joril via Dng
On 09/04/20 03:56, terryc wrote: This is a hardware question. Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed devuan onto? How difficult was it? HP db1043nl, installed Beowulf in... November? Wifi and graphics drivers didn't work out of the box, so I had to use another

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread tom
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:56:07 +1000 terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? > > Thank You In Advance. > > The long story; I finally have a need to purchase my own personal > laptop

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Rod Rodolico
I tend to purchase used equipment from a refurbisher, so this is old equipment. Dell Latitude E6440 installs fine, but bluetooth does not have drivers that I can find. Some weird Dell labeled part. There was some stuff on their site indicating you could make it work, but I'm lazy so I used a USB

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Rod Rodolico
Did a little test of Jitsi tonight. First thing is there were no appreciable cpu or memory requirement increase when multiple users are connected in a session. However, bandwidth is a consideration. These readings are from the server. Started with two users. Bandwidth was at around 8Mb/s, pretty

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread tempforever
Devuan ascii successfully installed, regularly used on the following laptops: Lenovo Thinkpad T550 -- the sd card reader does not work (think this is a hardware problem though, I did get a refurbished machine) HP Pavillion - not sure the exact model # These next two ran ascii, then