Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:38:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > >On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:44:30 + > >g4sra via Dng wrote: > > >In my young years I used to tinker with linux distros on floppy > >disks and there still where eth0, eth1 and so on but no udev, > >so where did the names came from? > >

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Mar 2021, at 15:08, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > > >>> On 5 Mar 2021, at 03:23, viverna wrote: >>> >> Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This packages >> are upgraded: >> >> grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common >> >> dpkg install from

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Mar 2021, at 03:23, viverna wrote: > > Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This packages > are upgraded: > > grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common > > dpkg install from version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u3 to version > 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 > >

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting o1bigtenor (o1bigte...@gmail.com): > I, for one, p l e a s e ? (!?!) {sigh} Care to try reframing the question? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:54 PM Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > This is incentive for me to take another crack at getting a jitsi > > instance running. It will probably take me a couple months to get one > > working since time is limited and there are

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 6:27 PM Steve Litt wrote: AS there seem to be quite a number enjoying this - - - - well you've caused me to crawl down the water drains and . . . > > Here are my favorite music decades, from most to least liked: > > 1) 1990's > 2) 1980's > 3) 1960's > 4) 1970's > 5)

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > This is incentive for me to take another crack at getting a jitsi > instance running. It will probably take me a couple months to get one > working since time is limited and there are many things higher on the > priorities list, but I'll work

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread Adrian Zaugg
Hi Viverna In der Nachricht vom Thursday, 4 March 2021 17:22:42 CET schrieb viverna: > And now the question. Has anyone reported the error in Devuan? Has > anyone haved this problem? Yes, it happened on one of my machines too. I did not yet check what really happened and did not try to solve it

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > From my point of view, meetup.com has inserted itself into LUG > operations as an unneeded middle man for LUGs without an effective > publicity officer. In case anyone's interested in an extended and only semi-temperate rant on this theme:

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 18:47 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Gabe, > > Could you please be explicit about what you mean by "meetup"? If you > mean something organized by meetup.com, then you're talking about > something where you have to sign an indemnification agreement, and at > least to some

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 19:31 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an > > alternative p2p platform ;-) > > Oh Oh: "As of September 1st 2020, invidio.us has closed down. To see > this content, please select another instance, or visit directly on

Re: [DNG] Does Devuan normally feature eth0 as the NIC?

2021-03-04 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On 04/03 19:34, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > My Devuan VM guest has the one and only "Ethernet card", which of > course is virtual, as eth0. Is eth0 standard operating procedure for > Devuan installations with only one wired NIC? Yes. That name originates in the adapter module of the Linux

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
>On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:44:30 + >g4sra via Dng wrote: >In my young years I used to tinker with linux distros on floppy >disks and there still where eth0, eth1 and so on but no udev, >so where did the names came from? Ya know, mknod wasn't so bad. The moment inotify was invented, I could

[DNG] Does Devuan normally feature eth0 as the NIC?

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, My Devuan VM guest has the one and only "Ethernet card", which of course is virtual, as eth0. Is eth0 standard operating procedure for Devuan installations with only one wired NIC? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
>Στις 4/3/21 7:20 μ.μ., ο/η Gabe Stanton via Dng έγραψε: >> posting a youtube link considering my stance against google. > >check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an >alternative p2p platform ;-) Oh Oh: "As of September 1st 2020, invidio.us has closed down. To see this

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
>Simon Hobson : >> >> I think it's a case of two things : >> > >Hi, I agree with the two. Yes, recently I've heard selection of songs >from the 1990s and told myself: "yeah I remember!!! well, there was >some good songs in this time after all!" > >But I still maintain that 1970s are special.

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
>I'm guessing we devuaners are spread far and wide... but I'm in >Colorado. I'd be interested in setting up or joining a general meetup >in Colorado Springs or Denver if there was any interest, even one >person. Hi Gabe, Could you please be explicit about what you mean by "meetup"? If you mean

Re: [DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread vmlinux
vmlinux wrote on 3/4/21 09:39: > Hi All, > I have a segregated LAN with clones of our production machines sitting in it > which is used for testing patches, developer things, etc. It's a "testing" > network. People are logging into the test network by connecting their RDP > client to a

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:10 PM, tito via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 17:22:42 +0100 > viverna vive...@inventati.org wrote: > > > Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This > > packages are upgraded: > > grub-common grub-pc

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 17:22:42 +0100 viverna wrote: > Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This > packages are upgraded: > > grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common > > dpkg install from version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u3 to version > 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 > >

Re: [DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:39:22 -0600 vmlinux wrote: > Hi All, > I have a segregated LAN with clones of our production machines > sitting in it which is used for testing patches, developer things, > etc. It's a "testing" network. People are logging into the test > network by connecting their RDP

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:20:11 -0700 Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 16:51 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P > > not even a little redneck disco? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK3a44BghU > > I admit it's from

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 19:41 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an > > alternative p2p platform ;-) I'll check them out, thanks! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/3/21 7:20 μ.μ., ο/η Gabe Stanton via Dng έγραψε: posting a youtube link considering my stance against google. check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an alternative p2p platform ;-) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
hey, Στις 4/3/21 6:35 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: When you say "local", do you mean "south America"? no, i mean a current EU member-state... even though its modern history is more similar to that of Chile and Argentina... And yes, I've forgotten to mention jamaican soul,

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 16:51 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P not even a little redneck disco? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK3a44BghU I admit it's from the 80's but it's still a sweet song. I tend to agree about 70's music, it's

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-04 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
There are also some informal Netiquette Guidelines from October 1995 in the form of RFC 1855: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855#section-3.0 Section 3 covers one-to-many communications. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-04 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:58:57 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Personally, I deliberately break the thread by snipping In-Reply-To > (or use mutt's new-message command, which amounts to the same thing) > if the new discussion will be semantically quite different from the > old one. This makes a lot of

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Dimitris : and locally, after the us-dictated military dictatorship and its widespread censorship ended in the mid70s, there was a blooming artistic creation and great local music was produced.. in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P At last, someone else than me to write

Re: [DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread Pontus Goffe via Dng
Den 2021-03-04 kl. 16:39, skrev vmlinux: Can anyone confirm XRDP is working with Xwindows in Beowulf? Any "unusual tricks" to getting it setup? Just want to make sure XRDP and X isn't just broken by default now. I use it, I dont think it has ever been perfect but I cant recall Beowulf has

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:51:28 +0200 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > Στις 4/3/21 4:16 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: > > And so I can't let Steve say something a little like "there was > > mainly Disco in the 70s". > > 70s gave us punk/punk rock, hard rock/heavy metal, 2nd wave ska, > reggae

[DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread viverna
Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This packages are upgraded: grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common dpkg install from version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u3 to version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 seems came from to: http://deb.devuan.org/merged

Re: [DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread Alexander Brüning via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 09:39 -0600, vmlinux wrote: > Can anyone confirm XRDP is working with Xwindows in Beowulf? Any "unusual > tricks" to getting it setup? Just want to make sure XRDP and X isn't just > broken by default now. I have XRDP servers running on a few Beowulf machines just fine.

[DNG] xrdp in devuan?

2021-03-04 Thread vmlinux
Hi All, I have a segregated LAN with clones of our production machines sitting in it which is used for testing patches, developer things, etc. It's a "testing" network. People are logging into the test network by connecting their RDP client to a desktop VM running XRDP inside the test network.

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-04 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 11:02:08 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/03/2021 à 07:46, tito via Dng a écrit : > > How Linux assigns network interface names > > The default name for Ethernet interfaces is based upon how Linux > > initializes them during device discovery. As Linux finds the network > >

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/3/21 4:16 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: And so I can't let Steve say something a little like "there was mainly Disco in the 70s". 70s gave us punk/punk rock, hard rock/heavy metal, 2nd wave ska, reggae and some of the greatest rock music ever... around the world, 70s

Re: [DNG] Touchpad on Thinkpad T580 stops working sometimes

2021-03-04 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Dimitri Minaev : I would be grateful for any ideas that might help solve the issue. Hi, my GObook(on the right of ) has

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Simon Hobson : I think it's a case of two things : Hi, I agree with the two. Yes, recently I've heard selection of songs from the 1990s and told myself: "yeah I remember!!! well, there was some good songs in this time after all!" But I still maintain that 1970s are special. I'm not the

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: >>What is the netiquette on this list for changing subject lines. >>I hate hijacking threads but I also hate breaking them. >>Which is the lesser of the two evils ? >> > > :-) > > My 2 cents: When the stuff I'm discussing no longer is apropos to the > OP's post, I