Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 11:53:25PM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > No, it does not block any browser. But, it will not work as well (or at > all) with some. I've tested it so far with FF, Safari, Chromium, Chrome, > Pale Moon and IE. > > Chrome/Chromium - works consistently all the time > FF -- i

[DNG] Arctic Fox name

2020-05-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 03:59:27PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > > interesting. I drop a line for ArcticFox then, since I am currently its > main contributor. I hope there's no danger of a name conflict, but "Arctic Fox" was the name of a video game sometime around 1980. -- hendrik _

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 04:32:54PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Raul Claro wrote: > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with > > Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact > > with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /wor

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of laptop have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 04:00:45PM -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > I installed Devuan Ascii on a Lenovo W530 via the live desktop > installer. I upgraded to Beowulf Beta a few months ago. > The install and upgrade were a breeze. > In general things are good. The only issue since upgrading to

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 14/04/2020 à 09:34, Dimitris via Dng a écrit : > > hey, > > > > On 4/14/20 10:23 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > > > I upgraded Ascii to Beowulf and successfully used the new version of > > > Waterfox. However, there are certain

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-04-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 07:04:45PM +, aitor_czr wrote: > In any case, i started working on my own minimalist browser. It's not a > joke: > > http://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/Screenshot_2020-04-11_18-14-41.png Very interesting that you're building a minimalist browser. What existing softwar

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
le including integrating of Let's > Encrypt. > > > From: Dng on behalf of Gregory Nowak > > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 6:30 AM > To: Hendrik Boom > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-confer

[DNG] less ;-)

2020-04-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 02:47:27PM +, dal wrote: > > When I manually arrange networking and try to use > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main > > then the se

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 11:56:07AM +1000, terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? Purism's Librem 15, version 3. Comes with coreboot and the Intel Management engine disabled. No pr

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 01:05:10AM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote: > I just installed a Jitsi instance on one of my old servers last week. My > 15 year old granddaughter did most of the work. We built it as a Xen > virtual with 10G disk, 4G RAM and 4 dedicated cores. We used ASCII as > the Distro. > >

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 03:17:43PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Second that. I love qTox, but I need something for a lecture. > > Jitsi or https://meet.jit.si/ look like a nice thing - > > as long as I do not forget to revoke mic+camera perm

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > > Dear Devlers, > > > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox > > (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als > > /https://global.goto

Re: [DNG] Help needed:[Fwd: eudev: Methods to detect if running in a container.]

2020-03-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 09:42:56AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Note that the inode number is per file system. If you make a file as an ext4 > image, then its root will have inode=2 as well. You can verify that by > mounting > the file somewhere and then stat that somewhere; or even chr

[DNG] What to do with an inode?

2020-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:18:45PM +, aitor_czr wrote: > > $ ls --inode --directory "/" > > 2 / Is there anything I can do with an inode except check file identity within a filesystem? Can I, for example open a file for reading or writing or read a directory given the inode number instead o

[DNG] Website issues about beowulf.

2020-03-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 08:35:42PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > > > Hi, > > > > goli...@devuan.org writes: > > > >> Dear dev1ers, > >> > >> The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The > >> installer isos, desktop-live and min

Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 05:55:25PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a > jitsi server in these days of virtual life. Is jitsi the progrm that lets you use facebook messenger from a Linux box? -- hendrik > > SteveT > > Stev

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-03-18 Thread Hendrik Boom
t recall it ever happening when I wasn't running > that program, and having it happen now reaffirms for me that is the > cause on my machine. Prior to the beowulf upgrade I had it running > pretty much all the time for a few months without issue. > > On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 14:26

Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:39:21AM -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > One more thing, I'm actually on kernel version 4.19.0.8, but again, > this issue started when I upgraded to beowulf. I've been on beowulf for months now, doing the usual upgrades every few weeks, but only started experiencing

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 01:20:24PM -0700, tom wrote: > > But this may be a stop-gap if you /really/ need to get an X86 machine > you already have running. My advice is to stop buying X86 in the future > and invest in other arches. Like what the libre-risv / libre-soc project is working on ( curr

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-03-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:09:37PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 03/03/2020 à 23:37, tekHedd a écrit : > > > > So, I would consider rewriting polkit and dbus from scratch. > > > > Also, who has time to rewrite polkit and dbus from scratch? What are the actual requirements for a dbus-like system

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

2020-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 03:01:55PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 18:43:01 -0500 > Clarke Sideroad via Dng wrote: > > > On 2020-03-03 5:45 p.m., spiralofhope wrote: > > > This helps me remember: > > > E for English "grEy" > > > A for American "grAy" > > > > > I attempt to be t

[DNG] kotlin

2020-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
Does Devuan have an already packaged implementation of kotlin? I looked in aptitude, but maybe I haven't guessed the right name for the package. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 04:29:58PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi all > > I am using Devuan (2.1) + MATE DE since 08/2016... > Now I wish to change DE but I am in doubt: XFCE or LXDE or LXQt??? I've used XFCE and LXQt. I hapen to be using LXQt now. I'm happy with either. I'm also happy

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 03:05:27AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:21:16 + > Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: > > > > So next, why is dbus needed? > > dbus is a message bus. There usually is one for the whole system, and > > one for each session. > > There are various uses an

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] [PATCH] (security) launcher: don't attempt to execute arbitrary binaries

2020-02-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:22:23PM -0800, tom wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:27:40 +0100 > Evilham via Dng wrote: > > > Hello Enrico, > > > > On dt., gen. 07 2020, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > > > What might supposed to be convenience functionality, poses a > > > real-life > > > security threa

Re: [DNG] download image ISO of beowulf

2020-01-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:20:34AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Hendrik Boom" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 5:57 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] download image ISO of beowulf > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05

Re: [DNG] download image ISO of beowulf

2020-01-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05:23:46PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:13:25AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > > Is there any image ISO of beowulf that can be downloaded from some site? > > > > Best Regards > > -- > > Ismael > > It seems most folks, like myself, got BEO

[DNG] buster to beowulf

2020-01-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'd like to pretend to be a former Debian user who wants to try out Devuan, and perform the cross-grade as a former Debian user might. The point of course, is for find out if there are any glitches before beowulf goes stable. I'll be doing it on a real hardware computer, not a VM. I have found t

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 03:35:39PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > (My own notion of a 'GUI package manager' is apt-get in an xterm. My > own notion of how to make sure an application has superuser privilege > is to do 'su -' to get it. policykit? I don't need no steenin > policykit.) So do I. E

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree. It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all packages whose name ended in "nonfree". But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in "nonfree" and try to remove pac

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 06:04:18PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > Hm... in fact I have consolekit installed. And if I try to remove it, apt > wants to install elogind instead. Perhaps consolekit is less bad...? I heard recently that Devuan is itself the upstream that Debian uses fo

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 06:07:01PM +, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > > Pardon ? Sorry but I do not speak French (at least I think it is French), > but if you are referring to the mythical bird that rises from the ashes, it > is 'Phoenix' in English. Anything else is not English. Indoed. It

Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0

2020-01-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:53:09PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were your > &g

[DNG] elogind and libelogind0 (WAS: Re: We need upgrade reports

2020-01-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 08:30:19PM -0500, tempforever wrote: > 'smee via Dng wrote: > > When I ran dist-upgrade the first time, it downloaded and unpacked > > everything okay but then failed with an error that dpkg had errored > > out. /var/log/dpkg.log didn't give anything helpful but I ended up >

Re: [DNG] OT: Fedora in Debian

2020-01-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:52:07PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Greetings all. Let's start the new year with something from the Debian > forums that might make you shake your head and chuckle. Poor newbie on > Windoze hasn't a clue just how funny his last para is: I don't get it. There mus

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:58:10PM -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system > to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real > thing. > > I've upgraded standard no-X systems, xfce and mate desktops, an

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 09:07:45PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 12/31/19 9:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > I've upgraded standard no-X systems > > openrc, no-X, task-console-productivity, luks . > > dist-upgraded from fresh 2.1 release to beowulf. > got a segmanation fault during openr

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 01:01:44PM +0100, r de vreede via Dng wrote: > Re:[DNG] We need upgrade reports > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:58 PM fsmithred via Dng > wrote: > > > Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production > > system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay,

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 09:41:48PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > tl;dr: Mailman will now munge the From: address if and only if the > sender's domain publishes a problematic DMARC policy, to substitute the > mailing list's address for the sender's. On those mails, Mailman > also appends a Reply-T

Re: [DNG] Sprung back to life

2019-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 05:23:00PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Rick, > > I thought my "Don't get in a pissing contest with Rick Moen" addressing > mistake would die a quiet death, but noo :-) It's taken on > a life of its own. There's a certain ironic humor with the thread > continui

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:31:58AM -0800, spiralofhope wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 03:01:22 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Predatory Interdependency > > This language reminds me of the old Microsoft "Embrace, extend, and > extinguish"[1] topic. > Another phrase I like is "strategic incompete

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 05:01:24AM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Hendrik: > ... > > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > > /dev/sdb1 20483481532768 16M unknown > > /dev/sdb2 34816 31116254 31081439 14.8G unknown > > # file -s /dev/sdb1 > # file -s /dev/sdb2 > > Regards,

Re: [DNG] Identifying or resetting a microsd card

2019-12-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 05:01:24AM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Hendrik: > ... > > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > > /dev/sdb1 20483481532768 16M unknown > > /dev/sdb2 34816 31116254 31081439 14.8G unknown > > # file -s /dev/sdb1 > # file -s /dev/sdb2 Thanks. I s

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. > > My usual tools tell me very little: > > > > root@midwinter:~# lsblk --fs /d

[DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. My usua tools tell me very littls: root@midwinter:~# lsblk --fs /dev/sdb NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT sdb ├─sdb1 └─sdb2 root@midwinter:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 14.9

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 08:58:10AM +0100, Denis Roio wrote: > I wholeheartedly agree with all your reasoning, quoted below. I don't > think that converting automatically at init or at package install is a > good idea: we need to keep this process under scrutiny by maintainers, > hoping more people

Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-11-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 07:21:54PM +0100, Massimo Coppola wrote: > > If (assuming that) we are going to lose the source of init scripts upstream, > then it's the only way forward. > (For those who consider recognizing the unit files as a valid source a > defeat: I may agree with you, but sometime

Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests

2019-11-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:35:42PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Even though I agree that we should never have been forced to reinvent a > wheel that wasn't broken, I have no problem with co-existence. But the > systemd cabal might not want to share. Will be interesting to see if at some > po

[DNG] iptables at risk when uprgading?

2019-11-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 02:57:53PM +, fraser kendall wrote: > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 13:13:38 +0100 > Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > > > - Even though I use scripts to automatically save/restore ip(6)tables > > rules on up/down, I ended up having my rules cleared through initial > > reboots

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 07:27:03PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:31:27 +0100 > > Regarding eliminating the journal, you bring up a good point. But so > did some other people arguing the opposite. I suggest an installation > that gives the following choices: > > * Don't use a j

Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4

2019-10-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 02:28:26PM +0100, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin with > > the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > > > Any suggestions what else to try?? > > A quick search engine use lead to >

Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4

2019-10-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:31:18PM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > L.S. > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin with > the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > Any suggestions what else to try?? Would a crossgrade frm buster to beowu

[DNG] buster to beowulf

2019-10-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have a buster installation sitting around on my hard drive in dual boot with beowulf. I was planning to delete the buster, but I understand we still want to test crossgrading from buster to beowulf. So... What is the current recommended way to crossgrade from buster to beowulf (so I can tes

Re: [DNG] Problem installing Devuan-ascii

2019-10-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:04:36AM +0200, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi Robert > > > > 14/10/2019 15:38:36 +0700 > Robert Parker : > > > My several attempts at installing this on a desktop amd machine in legacy > > mode do nothing but take me to a grub prompt. > > Examining the result using sy

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 02:06:32PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-10-22 23:20, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:44:11 -0500 > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > This email does not address the content of this email but rather something > very strange that came through in

Re: [DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:14:35AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 09 Oct 14:37:36 -0600 > Leonel Nunez scripsit: > > Hello: > > > > I've just got some raspberry pi4 but devuan for raspberry pi 3 does not > > boot. > > YOu'll need to update the firmware in /boot manuall

Re: [DNG] Fonts in testing/unstable are some ugly.

2019-10-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:38:27PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Tue, 8 Oct 08:32:22 -0400 > Hendrik Boom scripsit: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 12:07:11PM +0700, Андрей via Dng wrote: > > > Приветствую. > > > > > > > &

Re: [DNG] openvpn beowulf package imssing

2019-10-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 11:08:34AM +0200, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > So why there 2.3 version is in beowulf while buster's package is 2.4? > > FWIU, it seems this package is compiled from Devuan's CI and not merely > merged from upstream: https://ci.devuan.org/job/openvpn-binaries/ > > I h

Re: [DNG] Fonts in testing/unstable are some ugly.

2019-10-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 12:07:11PM +0700, Андрей via Dng wrote: > Приветствую. > > > A question on fonts in testing/unstable. > > To me, fonts in X session are as beatiful as it is in stable -- not > thin, nor sharp. In case you have same beatiful fonts > (as in stable) in testing/unstable, woul

Re: [DNG] Can't grub ignore /dev/hdb?

2019-09-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 06:50:05PM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/13/19 5:43 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2019-09-13 16:24, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Haven't replaced /dev/hdb yet. > > > Is there some way of getting it ignored in the following

[DNG] Can't grub ignore /dev/hdb?

2019-09-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
Haven't replaced /dev/hdb yet. Is there some way of getting it ignored in the following scenario? I started aptitude. It told me it hadn't been cleanly shut down last time, and recommended I do dpkg --configure -a before I do anything else. I do that, and the system apparently does some clea

Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html

2019-09-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 06:25:02PM +, NCW RC via Dng wrote: > I hope I did this maillist reply correctly. I am doing it with webmail, not > an email client. > > > libpam-systemd depends systemd-sysv. libpam-systemd also depends > > systemd. Devuan's libpam-elogind provides libpam-systemd but

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. > > I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. > > Would that help? I

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > There have been reports that the migration process from

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:55:26AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 > goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > > Dear Dev1ers, > > > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an > > opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when

Re: [DNG] Cannot mount android phone via usb

2019-08-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:32:01PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > According to apt-cache search, udev is a transitional package for > eudev. So does that mean I have an issue with eudev? I don't know about udev and eudev, vut an Android phone is an MTP device -- the Music Transfer Protocol

Re: [DNG] dependency hell OR it should not be this hard

2019-08-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 10:36:57AM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > I have been using my version of simple-netaid since Devuan's > inception. Has anyone ever made simple-netaid part of Devuan? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org ht

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 08:51:51AM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 03:10:23PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:55:00PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Sunday 11 August 2019 at 14:37:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > &g

Re: [DNG] Identifying a file system

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 11:15:35PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hendrik Boom - 11.08.19, 14:44:53 CEST: > > That may be true. You can also check with “wipefs” tool (don't worry, > > > without -a it won't wipe anything): > > > > > > wipefs --

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 05:17:08PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 8/11/19 3:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:55:00PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Sunday 11 August 2019 at 14:37:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > > > I

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:55:00PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 11 August 2019 at 14:37:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I do not know which of the hard drives on my machine is /dev/sdb/ > > ... > > > Or is there some completely different way of accomplishing

[DNG] Identifying a file system

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:24:25PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 08:18:54AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:13:48PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > On 10.08.19 21:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > So I want to find

[DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have a failing hard drive (/dev/sdb). It still works most of the time. I'd like to pull it from my system and replace it. Unfortunately, I do not know which of the hard drives on my machine is /dev/sdb/ I can rule out two of them because they have a different capacity. I have physically labele

Re: [DNG] why does mount expect NTFS?

2019-08-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 02:13:48PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 10.08.19 21:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > So I want to find out what's in /dev/sda4 on my hard drive. The > > computer has *never* had Windows on it. So I try to mount it, and am > > told: >

[DNG] why does mount expect NTFS?

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
So I want to find out what's in /dev/sda4 on my hard drive. The computer has *never* had Windows on it. So I try to mount it, and am told: april:/farhome/hendrik# mount /dev/sda4 /test NTFS signature is missing. Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Invalid argument The device '/dev/sda4' doesn't seem

Re: [DNG] But there is a problem, but my report was wrong.

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 03:11:03PM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 8/10/19 2:51 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Sorry for this post. There is trouble, but the details are all wrong. > > I was upgrading a machine that was differet from the machine I thought > > I was upgradi

Re: [DNG] But there is a problem, but my report was wrong.

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 07:09:36PM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 8/10/19 4:32 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 03:11:03PM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps that disk is defective and I have to rep

Re: [DNG] But there is a problem, but my report was wrong.

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 03:11:03PM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > > > Perhaps that disk is defective and I have to replace it. > > > > If you have smartmontools installed, you can check: > > smartctl -a /dev/whatever Im not familiar with these statistice, but it Looks bad: 7 Seek_

[DNG] I misreported, but still have a problem.

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 02:41:11PM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 8/9/19 2:16 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > OK. Towards my usual ugrade, I'm told: > > > > grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot > > Partition; embedding won

[DNG] But there is a problem, but my report was wrong.

2019-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
and t make it possible to boot from the gpt disk, but I have no idea what. On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:16:10PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > OK. Towards my usual ugrade, I'm told: > > Setting up libbasicusageenvironment1:amd64 (2016.11.28-1+deb9u2) ... > Setting up mariadb-client-

[DNG] trouble with grub-pc during routine upgrade

2019-08-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
OK. Towards my usual ugrade, I'm told: Setting up libbasicusageenvironment1:amd64 (2016.11.28-1+deb9u2) ... Setting up mariadb-client-core-10.1 (10.1.38-0+deb9u1) ... Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta3-5+deb9u1) ... Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: error: cannot write to `/dev/sdb': Inp

Re: [DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:33:09AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-07-28 09:29, rgsid...@sunrise.ch wrote: > > Hi, with the actual image, I encountered only one problem. I tried to > > install it from a USB-stick, but the installer mixed up the partitions > > and installed on /dev/sdb in

[DNG] Continuing the quest for a decent browser

2019-07-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:35:54AM +0200, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > From: Steve Litt > > > > What browser do you use instead, Edward. All browsers suck, and I'm > > still looking for a good one. > > Did you try Netsurf? > There is Midori too, but it installs too much dependencies. I'm still wishi

[DNG] UDP ports used by chromium

2019-07-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 08:00:02PM -0400, Tiger automatic auditor at april wrote: > # Checking listening processes > OLD: --WARN-- [lin003w] The process `chromium' is listening on socket 5353 > (UDP on every interface) is run by hendrik. > NEW: --WARN-- [lin003w] The process `smtpd' is listening

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 01:27:59PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hendrik Boom - 13.07.19, 01:01: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:33:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:00:35 -0400 > > > > > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > D

Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII

2019-07-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:02:02PM -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > > because it takes a lot of r

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:33:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:00:35 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Debian actually removed one of the encrypted file systems because it > > turns out to be incompatible with systemd. > > Are you absol

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:33:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:00:35 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Debian actually removed one of the encrypted file systems because it > > turns out to be incompatible with systemd. > > Are you absol

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:33:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:00:35 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Debian actually removed one of the encrypted file systems because it > > turns out to be incompatible with systemd. > > Are you absol

Re: [DNG] date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0200, Basati wrote: > hello > > Can anyone tell me if there is an approximate date for the publication of > beowulf? > > buster has been published as stable, now it's beowulf's turn no? It will be released when it's ready. And it won't be ready until the

Re: [DNG] dns vs connection manager

2019-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 08:34:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:31:31 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > This morning DNS wasn't working on my laptop, though it worked > > perfectly well on the server it wifi-ed to. > > After some pinging a

Re: [DNG] Booting devuan on a rasberry pi

2019-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 05:36:02AM -0500, hal wrote: > Hi, > I don't think the sdcard is a problem as I can mount it on my desktop system > fine. Sometimes I see weird things like this when there isn't enough power > (< 1 amp) but I wonder now if my rasberry pi has just gone bad. I seem to remembe

[DNG] dns vs connection manager

2019-07-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
This morning DNS wasn't working on my laptop, though it worked perfectly well on the server it wifi-ed to. After some pinging and checking connections, I found this on my laptop. The file /etc/resolv.conf: # Generated by Connection Manager nameserver ::1 nameserver 127.0.0.1 Now why would the

Re: [DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

2019-07-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 04:31:21PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hendrik Boom - 09.07.19, 14:26: > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:07:20AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:54:46 +0200 > > > > > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

2019-07-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:07:20AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:54:46 +0200 > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Martin Steigerwald - 08.07.19, 17:35: > > > Just another reason I am happy to use sysvinit on my systems. > > > > > > unblock: systemd/241-4 > > > https://bugs.debia

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 06:33:02PM +0200, viverna wrote: > il devuanizzato Martin Steigerwald il 08-07-19 11:03:36 > ha scritto: > > viverna - 06.07.19, 15:58: > > > Put my code here. > > > > > > Work for epoch init system but it is adaptable to any other such as > > > runit, s6 and so on... > >

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:54:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Steve Litt - 07.07.19, 01:26: > > On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > > > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > > So I believe it is good to let go of any drama and fear and just get > > > on with actually doing something to impr

Re: [DNG] semantic of sizeof operator in C (was: simple-netaid from scratch)

2019-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 01:47:42PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote: > > There is nothing wrong here. Gcc reports the size that is necessary to > store an object of type sesqui_int, including any padding that has been > applied, e.g. for alignment reasons. An array of n elements of that type > will in turn

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 08:05:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > I'm looking for software to handle appointment calendars, contact > > lists, and todo lists. > [snippity] > > > Any ideas? > > Yeah. My

[DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm looking for software to handle appointment calendars, contact lists, and todo lists. Yes, I realise I may not find an ideal one. I'm open to wriging my own if necessary, or (prefereably) modifying others' open-source versions, (or even more prefereably) finding one that is already ideal.

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