On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:12:23AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 21/11/18 at 20:56, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 05:24:24PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >> On 21/11/18 at 16:59, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 07:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 05:24:24PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 21/11/18 at 16:59, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 07:32:22AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> >> Quoting Roger Leigh (rle...@codelibre.net):
> >>
> >>> I've been following the discussion with interest.
> >> For values of 'f
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:17:21PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been following the discussion with interest. It's certainly not a new
> discussion, since I remember debating it a good few years back, but there
> are still the same opinions and thoughts on the topic that I rememb
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 05:19:03PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
>
> just for your amusement ...
>
>
> Forwarded Message
> Subject: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin
> Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:01:46 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-de..
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 06:47:09PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 18/11/2018 à 01:21, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
> > On 11/17/18 3:18 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The advantage of separating /usr is it can be mounted after
> > > boot. /bin and /sbin (and /lib) contain
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 01:29:53AM -0500, James Cloos wrote:
>
> *Everything* currently in /usr should instead be in /.
Things that are essential for system startup, and for system diagnosis
and recovery (in case it doesnt start properly) should be in the root
partition, whatever it is called.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:03:37PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:40:14 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 04:51:43PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > > ACK. Just like to point out that Devuan might run into packages
> > > that hav
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:04:42AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> As to the rest, I'm not in the habit of posting to public mailing lists
> detailed information about how often and precisely how I carry out
> security-sensitive maintenance at the very core of my systems. I'm just
> fickle and unreas
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 02:32:28AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
>
> > And what kernel source do you use, kernel.org or Debian?
>
> I'm unclear on what possible use you would have for that information.
It might help those wanting to try it themselves.
-- hendrik
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 04:08:19PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> P.S.: I am not so sure about the "unmerge" being so difficult, to be
> honest, but I might be wrong...
For unmerging you'd just have to know which files belong where in the
unmerged system. That information is should be in the unmerge
Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
> > Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >>
> >>> The
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:28:25AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 01:21:05 +0100, Miroslav wrote in message
> <075cb09d-9f17-1610-ced5-7ad556f5e...@uns.ac.rs>:
>
> > On 11/17/18 3:18 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The advantage of separating /usr is
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 08:31:33PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Daniel Reurich:
> ...
> > So... for Devuan, do we want to default to a merged /usr in our coming
> > release of Beowulf or are we going to resist another pointless
> > rearranging of the deck chairs...
>
> I don't want it.
> My vi
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 01:43:14PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> A separate /usr might have been introduced for the silliest an maybe
> even wrongest of the reasons, fact is that it turned out to be a very
> good filesystem layout concept that introduced flexibility and the
> possibility of
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 02:02:17PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> > Just like */bin and */sbin are useful to distinguish between programs
> > intended for general use and system administration use, the distinction
> > between / and /usr is useful to tell critical and non-critical programs
> >
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:11:01AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Well, maybe because initramfs is a PITA many people choose to avoid.
> When things go wrong, it's the ultimate black box. And I'm very scared
> that one day Poettering/Redhat/Freedesktop.org will corner the market
> on initramfs maker
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 12:15:35AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 October 2018 at 23:59:33, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>
> > What do they mean by sloppy?
>
> https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index4h2
So the sloppy distributions are not not required to be cleanly upgraded?
--
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 08:32:59AM -0500, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> I bounced to Mandrake briefly then Suse for an even shorter time before
> realizing that apt was better than rpm and became a Debian user.
It was the janitor at my local church that told me to switch form Mandrake
to Debian. Good
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:02:26PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote:
> On 31/10/2018 15.00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> > > > Now they're working on a Purism p
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> > >
> > > <2018103
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
> > has become contaminated with systemd.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
> > has become contaminated with systemd.
I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and
has become contaminated with systemd. So, naturally, I replaced it
with Devuan.
It works very well, except for a problem with the touchpad.
I can move the mouse pointer around by stroking the touch pad and I can
do the usua
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 02:24:12PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> Ceres is the unstable branch and changes on a daily basis. There is no
> installer for it (that I know of). If you want to create a Ceres VM,
> start with an Ascii one and
>
> sed -i 's/ascii/ceres/' /etc/apt/source.list
>
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file.
Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding things in it.
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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:55:33PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Michael K. wrote:
> > Hey List readers,
> >
> > i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor.
> >
> > I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:26:11AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 06:09:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:40:45 +0200
> > KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 06:58:32PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm about to star
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruce Ferrell writes:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not
> > start a process present in the init system", There is a command,
> > chkconfig:
>
> Make that: "there *was
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:10:35PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > >
> > > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent
> > > in
> > > (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clic
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:01:01PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >
> > ..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest
> > distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o)
> >
> > ..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is a
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:39:41PM +1100, terryc wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200
> Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> >
> > It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average.
>
> Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are?
> Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live in
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:07:19PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> > > Machines can
> > > ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> > > introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
> > > like. Suggestions? Ple
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:14:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:04:22 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>
> > Sounds good. So the runit package would wrap the directory with
> > boilerplate packageing info, including an installation-time shutdown
&g
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:59:12AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:48:14 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>
> > Or make one package for each daemon's runit directory and make that
> > package depend on the daemon's own package.
>
> Tha
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:17:24AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 07:19:49 +0200
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>
> > Unfortunately, pointing to a bunch of scripts is not enough:
>
> It's a starting point. Power-user individuals can start using runit
> today, with no action by any develope
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:14:25PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 09:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> >
> > You may end up with network delays for systems that are designed with
> > the speed of a local video display in mind.
> >
>
> Well I am n
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 01:07:19PM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
>
> > > Machines can
> > > ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to
> > > introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or
> > > like. Suggestions? Ple
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 05:05:07PM +, zeitgeisteater wrote:
> On 2018-10-17 11:29, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:05:21PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I personally, got tired of inventing yet another ini
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > Multiseating? When's the last time you had serial cables to monitors?
> > We have much more efficient Gigabit Eternet.
Over serial lines? 1979. With text-on
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:14:52PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 17-10-18 13:19, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
> > large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
> > another
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
>
> > "They" REALLY want to force the use of systemd.
> >
> > I REALLY don't want to use systemd. I've seen too many problems since
> > it's introduction.
> >
> > Now t
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:37:57PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > So it comes down to a) try to kill the chatty discovery protocols and
> > perpetuate the "geeks vs users" divide
>
> Was there a particular part of 'not on _my_ network' that was unclear?
Maybe we need discovery protocols that
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:05:21PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
>
> I personally, got tired of inventing yet another init system - did that
> over 20 years ago (actually, some things not so different from *early*
> systemd - before they became totally nuts).
>
> The problem, IM
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Somehow administering the printer is not
> considered a facet of infrastructure sysadminship, it's instead like a
> dirty floor: you don't wash it yourself if someone spilled their Double
> Hot Chocolate mug on it, you call the ja
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 01:42:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote:
>
> As an experienced systems administrator with strong gut instincts I can
> 'bolt stuff together' that 'just works' 24x7x365. Unfortunately, I am
> only a mediocre programmer, but despite that is my intention to
> contribute to Devuan what l
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 02:45:07AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
...
>
> And OT do I even need avahi installed at all?
What is it needed for?
>
> OK. I am a complete idiot and ignored the dot in the filename so didn't
> even see the resolv.conf file. This is what's in it:
>
> domain austin.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 11:52:34PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org):
>
> > Well, I picked a few names at random. netflix pops up as soon as I
> > hit enter. Ditto Microsoft, outlook, Apple, twitter, instagram,
> > reddit, snapchat and facebook. Redhat is in a s
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:17:20AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:05:20AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > On the other hand, the configuration suggested by KatolaZ:
> >
> > http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt
> >
> > that is:
> >
> > RewriteEng
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500
> > goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings everyone,
> > >
> > > Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very
> > > long ti
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 09:55:46AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:44:14 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>
> > And while we're at it, we want not to support systemd.
> > But living with inert systemd scripts is at least tolerable.
>
> H
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:56:26AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:55:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:24:44 +
> > alecfeld...@disroot.org wrote:
> >
> >
> > > 1. Split the runit package into separate packages with alternate
> > > stage files.
> > >
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:22:19PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:13:57 -0700
> Bruce Perens wrote:
>
> > I think this discussion is now so astronomically far from the purpose
> > of DNG that it serves no further purpose. Perhaps moderation is
> > called for?
>
> It never w
On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 09:39:42AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> , i'll start working on a tutorial about how to build you own distro.
>
> This tutorial will contain three chapters:
>
> 1) How to build your packages using git-buildpackage, pristine-tar and
> quilt.
>
> 2) How to build t
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 02:49:12PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 01:48:01PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been migrating a venerable headless sytem from Debian Wheezy to
> > Devuan.
> >
> > The migration from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie was fine,
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 08:13:24AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> El 19/09/18 a las 07:55, J. Fahrner escribió:
> >
> > Am 2018-09-18 11:37, schrieb aitor_czr:
> >
> > > Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid :)
> > >
> > Does simple-netaid not automatically reconnect after suspend/resume
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:17:26AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2, because of
> the general preference in favor of this second one. The packages for jessie
> will be available in a couple of days.
You seem to have experience with both
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 07:56:38AM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote:
>
> Is there some README about simple-netaid? What is it? Is it a
> replacement for wicd? Can they live together, or must wicd removed?
> What's the difference between the two?
I guess I could ask the same questions about "Connman UI se
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 09:49:35AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:10:04PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> > On 2018-09-10 20:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 10:04:28AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > I was going to use thi
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 02:36:01PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-09-13 14:08, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I just did a dist-upgrade on my ascii box. Unfortunately firefox-esr
> > was upgraded to 60.2.0. Pulseaudio is installed - it was also needed
> > for the last vers
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:10:04PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-09-10 20:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 10:04:28AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > I was going to use this email message as a reference in some
> > > documentation I'm wr
On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 10:04:28AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I was going to use this email message as a reference in some
> documentation I'm writing, but this email is not in the mail archive,
> or at least I can't find it there. The archive seems to contain no
> messaged from 8/8/2018 through 8
On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 10:07:11AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-09-09 09:04, Steve Litt wrote:
> > I was going to use this email message as a reference in some
> > documentation I'm writing, but this email is not in the mail archive,
> > or at least I can't find it there. The archive s
There's a discussion about Devuan on Soylent News:
https://soylentnews.org/~Knowledge+Troll/journal/3470
And one of the items mentions a bug:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=27209&page=1&cid=728648#commentwrap
It seems there's a problem with icons in MATE that doesn't happen
On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 10:40:01AM +0200, Stephane Ascoet wrote:
> > And when you go wheezy->jessie->ascii, you'll end up with a lot of "undead"
> > packages without upgrade candidate or things you put on hold ages ago
>
> Hi, what? Anyway this should happen then with everyone upgrading years aft
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 09:37:11AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 03:25:55AM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > On 08/31/2018 03:03 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 07:09:36PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> > >> taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Debian supports POW
On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 05:25:37PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 17:21:39, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 03:27:59PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > my spam blocking rules don't allow a reply-to address
On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 06:11:04PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 01/09/2018 at 13:05, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > goli...@dyne.org [2018-08-31 19:10]:
> >
> >> Use the default Clearlooks-Phenix-DarkPurpy theme. Most other themes
> >> cannot render the gtk3 properly. xfce4 terminal looks grea
On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 03:27:59PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Hi,
> my spam blocking rules don't allow a reply-to address to freemail addresses.
> Today I received a message from this list with a gmail.com replyto address
> (which was rejected).
> I'm wondering why this list allows replyto addresse
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 06:05:39PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:39:11PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> >> Is there a reason not to use `rsync -n` ?
> >
> > Ahhh... That's what -n is for. I missed it looking
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:20:13AM +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
> You might also consider using sshfs, then "diff -r", if you want to detail
> the differences.
That takes too much network bandwidth. Otherwise just fine.
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On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:39:11PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Is there a reason not to use `rsync -n` ?
Ahhh... That's what -n is for. I missed it looking through the man page.
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Is there something like rsync that compares a local and a remote file
tree and reports differences without coying or transmitting all the files?
I remember once being told that md5sum had an option to recurse through
a directory tree, summing every file. But I can't find such an option
in the
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 01:46:14PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I put Devuan on my usual travel laptop, a Panasonic FZ-G1 fully-rugged
> tablet with an iKey fully-rugged rubber keyboard with hinge which makes it
> a laptop. This is specified to survive hose water from any angle and stand
> signific
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 09:17:04AM +1000, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> > On 21 Aug 2018, at 02:14, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 02:31:05PM +0100, leloft wrote:
> >>
> >> Tue, 14 Aug 2018 21:52:19 +
>
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 02:31:05PM +0100, leloft wrote:
>
> Tue, 14 Aug 2018 21:52:19 +
> [SECURITY] [DSA 4272-1] linux security update
> version 4.9.110-3+deb9u2
> Confirmed: ascii-proposed-updates
> Note: this update has been superseded by version 4.9.110-3+deb9u3
> confirmed present in asc
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:54:36PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > Your mileage may vary, but I kicked all Palemoon off all my computers
> > after they treated a person like this:
> >
> > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
>
> Hello,
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:20:04PM +, chill...@protonmail.com wrote:
>
> Note that I deliberately didn't call systemd GNU/Linux, as it doesn't leave
> much of GNU left. Imho an important point against the propoganda is that it's
> a very different OS.
>
I call it systemd/Linux, to distingu
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:08:47PM +0100, ael wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:12:30PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 06:17:59 -0500
> >
> > Try qupzilla. Similar browser, without the baggage.
>
> Now Falkon, it seems.
It's still called qupzilla in ascii. I just installed it
On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 08:42:22PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Every so often I get a bug to see what it takes to run
> terminal programs on my phone. Having just spent half an
> hour looking through outdated articles about outdated apps,
> I can save you some trouble:
>
> Termux looks dec
Nothing to say ere; just changing the subject so to make this easier to find.
On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 08:43:29AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 03:19:23PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > All of that is true and I'm not suggesting otherwise. I just wish that
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:07:42AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > Anyone thinking of dissing a nation on this *technical* list should
> > look long and hard at the deficiencies of his/her own country. Let he
> > who is without sin cast the first sto
I found this article online.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/debian-without-systemd-devuan/
It doesn't really get into the problems with systemd, unfortunately.
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 06:50:43PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote on 25.07.2018 17:59:
> [cut]
> > Package dependencies are of the form
> > Install X if Y is installed
> > Too bad it doesn't handle
> > Install X it Y and Z are installed.
>
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:20:56PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Katolaz wrote on March 2, 2018:
>
>
> Most of those "alarming" files are just systemd units files, put there
> by daemons/packages/utilities who "also" support systemd in a way or
> another. So they are not alarming but just *totally*
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:51:17AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Basati,
>
> El 22/07/18 a las 10:14, Basati escribió:
> > I am preparing a project for children from 8 to 16
> >
> > The idea is to introduce them into computing, devuan and python programming
> >
> > Using raspberry pi 3 B+ as a ha
What does this mean:
hendrik@midwinter:~/write/Melinda/Melinda$ ping 172.25.1.11
PING 172.25.1.11 (172.25.1.11) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 169.254.2.124 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 169.254.2.124 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 169.254.2.124 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:32:10AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 15/07/2018 à 20:37, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:27:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:41:21PM +0200, Udo Hennig wrote:
> > > > I get some
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 09:31:25PM +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > But there is a /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> > so I'll try editing that.
>
> That is the one, or at least one you can use. Just change t
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 09:31:25PM +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > But there is a /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> > so I'll try editing that.
>
> That is the one, or at least one you can use. Just change t
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:27:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:41:21PM +0200, Udo Hennig wrote:
> > I get some trouble with the network after updating to ascii and
> > rebooting too on two computers. I found some messages in dmesg like
> >
>
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:41:21PM +0200, Udo Hennig wrote:
> I get some trouble with the network after updating to ascii and
> rebooting too on two computers. I found some messages in dmesg like
>
> Cannot rename eth0 to eth1, name already in use
> Cannot rename eth2 to eth0, name already in use
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 07:03:13PM +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote:
> Am Samstag, 14. Juli 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > (2) How should I go about tracking down the problem?
> >
> > I might add that ifconfig reports the usual interfaces of eth0, eth1,
>
> Have you checked
I upgraded my home serverto ascii a bit ore than a week ago, and then
proceeded to make a full backup of user files (and system files in case
I have to consult them on reinstallation if the system gets hoplessly
broken).
I finally rebooted yesterday after a week of flawless running, only to
fi
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 06:41:10AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> Being a "veteran" has never been a sufficient excuse from the
> obligation to support your claims with actual facts. This is not a
> religion, and there has never been anything like a revealed gospel in
> the free software community[1].
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:12:58AM +1000, terryc wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:48:34 +0200
> Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>
> > "Since the beginning of the git era (the 2.6.11 release in 2005), a
> > total of 15,637 developers have contributed to the Linux kernel;
> > those developers worked for a
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:36:19PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:46:45PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > update-initramfs sets a nonexistent disk as a swap device.
>
> Check /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume.
One line only: RESUME=/dev/hdc1
Looks like
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 11:27:16AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:10:41PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > During and after my upgade to ascii,
> > when I try to install packages
> > I consistently get messages like
> >
> > WARNING:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:12:12PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
>
> How can I find out what's attached to this port?
No one was on port 80. Startup of lighttpd failed for an even stranger reason:
/etc/li
update-initramfs sets a nonexistent disk as a swap device.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64
W: initramfs-tools configuration sets RESUME=/dev/hdc1
W: but no matching swap device is available.
There hasn't been an hdc drive for ages.
The hd drives are all sd drives now.
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 06:17:51PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/08/2018 06:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > During and after my upgade to ascii,
> > when I try to install packages
> > I consistently get messages like
> >
> > WARNING: The following
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