Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 05:02:54PM -0400, Gary Olzeke wrote: > bash couldn't find 'nano' (I wanted to copy the 'sandbox' message) > bash was looking in /usr/bin/nano - it was at /bin/nano [per 'which' > command] Could that be a side effect of debian/systemd's fusion of /usr with /? --

[DNG] backporting

Are there instructions somewhere whereby a novice could backport a package? I'm interested in backportin opam and related stuff because the opam in jessie is dangerously obsolete. It is no longer compatible with the opam archive format. -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 07:39:26AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I long for a proper Linux on my phone. > > Virus-makers can install software on my phone with root > capabilities, but I am not provided convenient tools to do > so. I manage to get a ro

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 06:27:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > My experience differs: I heard many times non technical people bemoan the > way their Android phone does things and ask me how that could be changed, how > that could be taken away (usually pop-ups and notifications), how

[DNG] Deliberate inflexibility

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:53:25PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > You do *not* empower people taking away what they could easily do the day > before and suddenly prevent them from even changing the desktop's > aesthetics. You do not empower non-technical users by forcing them into a >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-06-20 18:58, schrieb KatolaZ: > >What could be relevant is that, as several people have already pointed > >out, GNOME 3 is still available for platforms in which systemd is not > >present (e.g., FreeBSD:

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:29:27PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2017 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > > > A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of > interest to radio amateurs. It had been dropped from Debian due to a > compile failure with a newer version of GTK2. The fix was fairly > trivial even for a GTK

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:16:34AM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > > > > systemd is not not only an init system, it is expanding to a whole eco > > system around the linux kernel, creating apis for everything you can think

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:55:44PM -0400, zap wrote: > > > On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > > > >> how does one remove that package without removing anything else? > >> > >> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:57:52PM +, Bruce Perens wrote: > But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That > Must Not Be Named. :-) I think that one fails the syntax test on package names. I don't think spaces are allowed. In any case, libsystemd0 is not an

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: > > >The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from > >installing and using OpenRC. > > > The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function > without

Re: [DNG] package listing

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 05:27:30PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote: > > Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic > > schedule? > > > > The list of all available packages in the repos you have in >

Re: [DNG] human reaable package index

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 02:16:45PM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 06/13/2017 11:01 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > On 2017-06-13 06:59, aitor wrote: > >> Hi, > >> On 06/12/2017 12:00 PM, Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org>wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 11

Re: [DNG] Gnome, KDE?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:45:19AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > Is there a short answer (or can you point me at docs) to the question "what > makes a DE dependent on systemd?" > The decision by the developers to use its interfaces instead of the traditional ones. -- hendrik

[DNG] human reaable package index

Debian has a useful page, https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, which you get to via packages.debian.org Is there anything similar for devuan? https://www.devuan.org/distrib/packages does not work. Nor does https://packages.devuan.org/ -- hendrik

[DNG] Please backport opam 1.2.2 to jessie

opam 1.2.0 is broken in practical terms. It is no longer compatible with the current archive format. The developers are recommending migrating to opam 1.2.2. As far as I know, Debian and Devuan Jessie are the only distros still shipping opam 1.2.0. Would it be possible to provide 1.2.2 in

Re: [DNG] Upgrades to testing... Is DebianBug#864043 relevant to us?

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 03:37:04PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 08:37:26AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > This is in response to a bug on the Debian documenation mailing list, > > but I'm replying to Devuan instead because some of it may be relevant > &g

Re: [DNG] EFI vs old BIOS booting

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50:02AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 06/10/2017 08:22 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I have a old laptop with an EFI partition, but it has the old-style > > MBR partitioning structure. The EFI partition was there when it was > > new,

[DNG] Upgrades to testing... Is DebianBug#864043 relevant to us?

This is in response to a bug on the Debian documenation mailing list, but I'm replying to Devuan instead because some of it may be relevant here. I'm particularly concerned by the sentence at the end: > But I haven't heard anybody claiming to have > done any bug-free upgrades, so it's hard to

Re: [DNG] EFI vs old BIOS booting

On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 11:36:04PM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 06/08/2017 09:07 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I have a machine with both old-style MBR (fdisk) partitioned and > > gpt-style (needs gdisk) partitioned disks. It boots using grub or > > lilo. > &g

[DNG] EFI vs old BIOS booting

On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:27:30PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > The problem was more worked around than resolved. > > After having no grub modules with an installation on a new disk, whether > DVD or netinst ISO, I knew the problem wasn't with the disk. I installed > Devuan Jessie more or less

Re: [DNG] Onscreen keyboard

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 02:41:04PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Hi all, > can someone recommend an onscreen keyboard (for use in tablet mode) with low > dependencies and no systemd? There used to be one that was part of X. Is it still around? -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] lost ability to execute

On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 10:42:23AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Another anomaly is what when I boot the old devuan, the boot goes to > recovery mode despite what is selected in the GRUB menu. A control-D > continues the boot normally. It showed up only fairly recently. But > since I seldom reboot

Re: [DNG] [Caml-list] [rfc] deprecating opam 1.2.0

Re: The version of opam in Debian and DEvuan Jessie is being officially deprecated, becuse there are serious problems with it. Let me start with the relevant quote from the ocaml mailing list: On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 02:31:01PM +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > On 2 Jun 2017, at 13:16, Hend

[DNG] scanner dependencies

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 01:55:51PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 08:16:28PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Florian Zieboll writes: > > > IIRC, a sane developer had replied to that thread and said > > > that also saned just checks for the existence of libsystemd0 but does

Re: [DNG] trash

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:42:32AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:49:39 -0400 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directorie

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 05:02:12PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> > wrote: > > > > > bash wasn't the original shell. > > > I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out

Re: [DNG] trash

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:26:14PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): > > > Personally, I like mc for convenience when working from the > > commandline because of its splitscreen mode. > > mc (Midnight Commander) is very, very handy --

Re: [DNG] trash

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:03:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in > > ~/.local/share/Trash ? > > > > I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. >

[DNG] trash

Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in ~/.local/share/Trash ? I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] upgrade and dist-upgrade

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:03:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 13 May 2017 01:06:38 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Long before three weeks ago. I don't usually upgrade or > > dist-upgrade unless there is some particular need. > > Probably I'm not alone, even if that is

[DNG] cleaning before upgrade

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 08:08:51AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > apt-get dist-upgrade is what's necessary to change release - as the name > means -, eg Wheezy to Jessie or Jessie to Ascii. This is why it should > rarely be used, and only after carefully editing sources.list. It's a jump >

Re: [DNG] reportbug default bts

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 07:36:32PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..I came in woody time from the cold dropped Red Hat 7.3, I've > dist-upgraded from woody and sarge to sid/wheezy, and from lenny > to sid/Jessie. Only reason I left SuSE-5.2 (It rocked!), was > I didn't know how to do "insmod

Re: [DNG] sane-utils depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 04:10:26PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 5/9/17, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > >> > I thought Sane was a bare application. Does it involve also some > >> > kind of > >> > server to "need"

Re: [DNG] GNU licenses, which are free?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 08:18:57AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > I wrote a free game > > (http://topoi.pooq.com/hendrik/dv/free/fun/wander/index.html) once > > as part of the liberated pixel cup challenge > > (http:

[DNG] GNU licenses, which are free?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:47:53AM +0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Oh, no, not the "Open Source Initiative"! Richard Matthew Stallman > stills very often goes out of the way to explain that Open Source is not > really free! Even the GDFL (Gnu free documentation license) has restrictions on

Re: [DNG] apulse in experimental

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:55:57AM +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote: > Hi KatolaZ > > Yes it works in Jessie! > > Thanks > > Ozi > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:42 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > the apulse package will never "hit stable", if by stable you mean > > Devuan Jessie.

[DNG] problem installing postgresql

In the middle of installing several packages using apt-get install postgresql ruby-sass I get a message. Setting up postgresql-common (165+deb8u2) ... supported-versions: WARNING! Unknown distribution: devuan /usr/share/postgresql-common/supported-versions: 64:

[DNG] Another minor Debian vestige

I just installed lighttpd, and it properly served its front page, which tells me I should configure the system to show my web content instead of the frot page. But the front page also says, > This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the > Lighttpd server package. > >

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:33:06PM +0200, marc wrote: > the kernel thesedays > allows one to delegate the "default-child-collector" function of > init to other processes - that is what the container infrastructure uses. Which seems to be an effective rebuttal against the argument for systemd

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:57:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 19:22:36 -0400 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 05:04:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36P

[DNG] Some links found at a report on a Debian bug squashing party

Recently I failed to attend a Debian bug squashing party here in Montreal because I was otherwise engaged that day. If I had attended I would have learned something about Debian packaging, which could perhaps have been useful here. But the report on the bug squashing party contains links to

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 05:04:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > wrote: > > On 15.04.2017 19:50, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > About my characterizations: "Baroque" is a relative thing.

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 15.04.2017 19:50, Steve Litt wrote: > > > About my characterizations: "Baroque" is a relative thing. What I wrote > > was based on "why would you not simply use a process supervisor like > > systemd?" If a

Re: [DNG] Fwd: init system agnosticism [WAS: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:57:09AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: ... ... > > Systemd is not an init system; it is an operating system. Devuan runs a > Gnu/Linux OS which is not Systemd. Even if the two are using almost the same > kernel, they aren't the same OS. The most typical effect of this is

Re: [DNG] Fwd: init system agnosticism [WAS: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system]

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:13:46PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > [...] > > Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no > > other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan to > > allow systemd into their

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:55:37PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > OK, but you would agree that, if you find yourself in such an > "unprotected enviroment", there is not much difference between typing > the root password and typing the password of a user who can become > root by "sudo su". This is

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 03:27:22PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > and udisks works without udev and libsystemd0... thanks to vdev :) What is the status of vdev? Is it packages and inthe repositories yet? Is it too much to hope it;s available in jessie? -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:58:27PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > > Thanks for that hint. SpaceFM in conjunction with udevil is great. So I can > get rid of this ugly gvfs. gfvs is broken by design, because it creates a > ~/.gvfs directory which is not accessible by root. So every backup tool >

Re: [DNG] message from rdiff-backup

On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 10:25:02AM +0200, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > That message means that the file changed during backup. > > Arnt Thanks. Since /var/dhcp contains mostly transient information, I won't worry about it. Yes, I know restoring /var wholesale may be problematical. I back it up

[DNG] message from rdiff-backup

During a backup I got the following messages: Found interrupted initial backup. Removing... UpdateError lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases Updated mirror temp file /usbackup/backup-by-rdiff/april/var/lib/dhcp/rdiff-backup.tmp.9233 does not match source UpdateError log/btmp Updated mirror temp file

Re: [DNG] defective RAID

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 08:06:15PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Hendrik Boom: > ... > > > If you have /boot on a raid-mirror on all your disks (pref. as first > > > partition) there is no problem making lilo work. Since then it > > > doesn't matter which disk

Re: [DNG] defective RAID

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 05:20:25PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Hendrik Boom: > ... > > lilo doesn't do RAID assemby, as far as I know. It just starts up > > with a bunch of blocks at a fixed offset from an identified partition, > > identified by UUID, and there's tw

Re: [DNG] defective RAID

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 07:03:53PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 25/03/2017 20:17, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > >I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the > >second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is > >supposed to do -- work w

Re: [DNG] defective RAID

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 06:09:34PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: ... ... > > 3 Removing The Failed Disk > > To remove /dev/sdb, we will mark /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 as failed and remove > them from their respective RAID arrays (/dev/md0 and /dev/md1). Possibly too late. My defective RAID

Re: [DNG] defective RAID

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 09:00:23PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the > > second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is > > supp

[DNG] defective RAID

I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is supposed to do -- work when things are broken.. The RAIDs are mdadm-style Linux software RAIDs. One contains a /boot partition; the other an LVM partition

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 01:23:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:47:37 -0400 > > You can rule out plugins completely by running it with: > > surf -p Still fails: hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ surf -p http://www.dhl.de (surf:26064): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_events:

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:50:18AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:47:37AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > I have not installed plugins for surf. But could it be finding > > plugins installed for other browsers? &

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:45:49AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:36:11AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > > Am 18.03.2017 um 10:32 schrieb KatolaZ: > > > > > > it loads fine over here. > > > > > > $ surf -v > > > surf-0

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:36:11AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Am 18.03.2017 um 10:32 schrieb KatolaZ: > > > > it loads fine over here. > > > > $ surf -v > > surf-0.7, ©2009-2015 surf engineers, see LICENSE for details > > > > HND > > > > KatolaZ > > > > > > ok, I tried it on some other pc

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:54:17AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Please can someone try to load http://www.dhl.de with surf? > I get a segmentation fault when opening this page. > That happens woth both, the version from stable and the version from > backports. hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ surf

Re: [DNG] Where to report?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:18:10PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > Hi Hendrick, > > 1] As has happened in the past, I'm not sure I understand what you > wrote. > > 2] Your comment about the issue being about a ''devuan package' did > send me into a panic, so I double-checked, and it seems that the >

Re: [DNG] Where to report?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 04:17:23PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently submitted what I considered a 'grave' bugreport to > debian[1], which had its severity downgraded to 'wishlist' and its > title changed, all because of systemd, which I suspect is irrelevant > to my report.

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 04:57:15PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > debian-user is a mailing list of debian users. I am not a debian user > any more, and I was not on that list even when I was a Debian user > (and it was for about 15 years). So why on Earth should I now go there > and shout loud at

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:55:57AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-03-14 20:37, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >Can somebody please make a list, that we can put our names on, of > >people who left Debian because of systemd? And put the name Steve Litt > >on it please. > > > > There are plenty

Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote: > >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > >> > >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:

[DNG] getting surf from backports

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > > their names. > > > > surf > > netsurf > > >

Re: [DNG] New documentation on the Surf browser

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 02:32:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:22:43 +0100 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:05:44 -0800 > > Rick Moen wrote: > > > > >

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 06:44:59PM -0500, in discussion on firefox, alsa, pulseaudio and Devuan, Steve Litt wrote: > > Devuan is Linux, Linux is free software, and the Android OS, whatever > it's called, is definitely not free software. Your response would be > more ontopic on an Android list.

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scritto: > > This is a follow up to this old thread: > > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161002.124357.7c39d049.en.html > > > > According to this post on FDN - > >

[DNG] default signing Re: [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:52:41AM -0600, ja...@beau.org wrote: > > And then there's what Jamie said: By all being private, we make the > > truly private stand out less. I haven't yet gotten to the point of > > using privacy I don't need personally, as is obvious by this unsigned > > email. > > >

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > heads 0.0 is out! > It finally happened and it's not vaporware! It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a VM or bare hardware from USB, but... What Is It? -- hendrik > > heads 0.0 is a preview live CD of what heads is going to be

Re: [DNG] Licenses: was Browsers

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 06:36:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:09:15 -0500 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 09:45:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:31:08

Re: [DNG] Browsers

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 09:45:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:31:08 -0500, Steve wrote in message > <20170225203108.2838a...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:34:50 -0500 > > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: >

Re: [DNG] Browsers

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 07:39:56PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > I have already implicitly replied to this question before you even > answered it (in the gtk+3 thread). > > If you don't mind minimal stuff (i.e., a browser that just browse the > WWW and downloads files on request), then surf+tabbed

Re: [DNG] Browsers

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:47:33PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:34:50 -0500 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > But firefox sometimes get crazy slow -- so slow I get no feedbak > > whether I've properly clicked on

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 05:32:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > ... > > > default login username and password for (live media) > > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 > > ... >

[DNG] Browsers

Browsers. What a mess. I've beed using Devuan since alpha-2. I had to stop using chrome when support wsa suddenly dropped for my platform -- 32-bit linux. This after I had increased my RAM from one to two gigibytes and recovered decent performance. I switched to firefox. FOr a while there

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 08:55:54PM +, Dave Turner wrote: > >Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles synaptic etc.in > jessie. > >We may have to rethink the default desktop in ascii . . . and if there will > even be one . . > > I was losing track of who said what when, but

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 06:36:29PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > Am 05.02.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > > > > > > Both ways it worked like a charm. > > > > Strange. Mine is a PI 1 Model B. (armhf architecture). Maybe the current > packages are not compatible with that? But original

Re: [DNG] corrupted aptitude state -- SOLVED

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 08:25:31PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:15:06 +0100 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > $ rm /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates* > > > I forgot to mention that aptitude will re-populate the file on the next > run. Of course it did when I

Re: [DNG] corrupted aptitude state -- SOLVED

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 08:15:06PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:44:26 -0500 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > > > It turns out my problems with aptitude seem to be over, after doing > > > > apt purge a

Re: [DNG] corrupted aptitude state -- SOLVED

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 06:37:08PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 01:22:17PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Where can I find complete documentation for apt-*? > > > > As usual, the complete documentation is to be found by

Re: [DNG] corrupted aptitude state. (WAS: python-sipsimple dependencies

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 04:36:13PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:58:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > So uninstalling and purging aptitude's configuration looks viable. As long > > as it > > doesn't do nasties li

Re: [DNG] corrupted aptitude state.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 05:56:41PM +0100, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > On 25-01-17 16:58, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >So uninstalling and purging aptitude's configuration looks viable. As long > >as it > >doesn't do nasties like uninstalling grub and wic

[DNG] corrupted aptitude state. (WAS: python-sipsimple dependencies

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 03:36:09PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:06:14AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > I don't want to pull anything for Debian. What I had used was a > > third-party > > package repository for a specific applic

Re: [DNG] python-sipsimple dependencies

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 02:34:48PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 09:11:15AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:04:39AM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > > > python-sipsimple (>= 3.0.0) seems to uninstallable because of > > >

Re: [DNG] python-sipsimple dependencies

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:04:39AM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > python-sipsimple (>= 3.0.0) seems to uninstallable because of > dependencies. Is there a safe and easy way to pull them in from Debian? I wouldn't pull anything in from Debian. I added an independent repository for up-to-date OCaml

[DNG] The Internet Wifi Daemon

I this ssomethnig we should be aware of? It seems someone is in the process of replacing wpa_supplicant and a lot of the tools above it with new software, IWD, the Internet Wifi Daemon. https://www.linux.com/news/event/elce/2017/new-linux-wifi-daemon-streamlines-networking-stack -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:00:29PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > I'm running a caching resolver locally because that "always works" > (unless blocked by the ISP which may become mandatory in the UK 'soon' > ...), even if an out-of-the-ordinary cache flush is called for because > of a 'recent'

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 03:34:20PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by > > > any means) be responsible for DNS configuration, mainly because we > > > don't

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 08:55:40PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > > What's wrong with 8.8.8.8? It's Google's public DNS, and for me, it > > always works. > > That's fine - no-one is saying that you shouldn't use them if **you** want to. > > What

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 07:20:36AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > dear Rick, > > On Sun, 01 Jan 2017, Rick Moen wrote: > > > In skimming through the dnscrypt source code, I see that it's a DNS > > tool to proxy queries over DNSCrypt protocol (that invokes ldns in > > the process of doing its work) --

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 02:11:27PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > > > What do /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nssswitch.conf have in them ? > > Though to be honest, other than the systems I have BIND running on, > > DNS resolution is something of a black box

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 08:36:43PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > > >> Which caching daemon are you using? > > > > That's one of the things I don't know. I suspect it's whatever > > the devuan installer provi

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:03:49PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 08:50:00AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I'm running devuan Jessie on my 32-bit i686 laptop, having installed > > long ago from the alpha2 release and doing routine upgrades ever after. > > &

[DNG] how to clear DNS cache

I'm running devuan Jessie on my 32-bit i686 laptop, having installed long ago from the alpha2 release and doing routine upgrades ever after. Occasionally I get wrong DNS lookups because of occasional DNS misconfigurations elsewhere, and they get into the DNS cache. Yes, get the

Re: [DNG] eudev status

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 05:58:25PM +0100, Anto wrote: > > I don't think it is a big issue to replace the running udev on laptop and > KVM based VPS as we can still have access to GRUB menu to recover from any > issues. I had issue in switching udev with eudev on my Xen based VPS. Does that mean

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