Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/17/21 14:29, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 17/12/2021 à 20:32, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit : On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit : I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.  And it would have to be recompiled every time

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/16/21 09:59, Steve Litt wrote: Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700 On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every application you want to use it. Something got clipped wrong

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit : I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.  And it would have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.     Why do you need to track the very last version from Mozilla

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/15/21 16:58, aitor wrote: Hi Steve, On 16/12/21 1:09, Steve Litt wrote: I'm not so sure. We're hearing anecdotes of people running Firefox with only ALSA. Perhaps there's some secret magic incantation that we don't yet know about. FF needs to be compiled passing the flag:

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/15/21 18:32, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: Installed apulse.  Still no sound in firefox, or xine. Simply installing apulse doesn't mean applications will start using it. You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/14/21 17:00, Steve Litt wrote: Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:09:31 -0800 On 12/14/21 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit : Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio or apulse. So, I suggest verifying

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/14/21 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit : Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for you without apulse first. Interesting. I only use firefox occasionally, but some

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-13 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/13/21 12:24, ael via Dng wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 08:04:35AM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: On 12/13/21 01:05, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 09:40:20PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I am not at all sure that I want pipewire.  It was brought in by zoom

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-13 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/13/21 00:30, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 13/12/2021 à 06:40, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit : I was scrolling though my e-mail from the debian user group and I saw mention of pipewire, as a replacement for pulseaudio.  It seemed to suggest that it was in Testing, so would not be available on my

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-13 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/13/21 01:05, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 09:40:20PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I was scrolling though my e-mail from the debian user group and I saw mention of pipewire, as a replacement for pulseaudio.  It seemed to suggest that it was in Testing, so would

[DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-12 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I was scrolling though my e-mail from the debian user group and I saw mention of pipewire, as a replacement for pulseaudio.  It seemed to suggest that it was in Testing, so would not be available on my Devuan Stable (chimaera) system, but I took a look, anyway.  It seems to be available, and,

Re: [DNG] (SOLVED. Definately) Re: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-12-05 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/2/21 01:19, Marc Shapiro wrote: I THINK it's working now. I found the line in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template 'file = /var/mail/$local_part' that needs to be changed to 'file = /var/mail/$local_part_+data'.  (The line is 72% of the way through a 79K file.)  Then I needed to run

[DNG] (SOLVED. I Think) Re: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-12-02 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 12/2/21 00:38, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: Den 2021-12-02 kl. 09:16, skrev Marc Shapiro via Dng: No luck.  I rebooted and got the paniclog error during the boot. After booting, I stopped exim4, deleted the paniclog, and restarted exim4.  It created a paniclog containing the following

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-12-02 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
-reconfigure. Cheers,     Ludovic On Wed, 01 Dec 2021, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: This is very likely the problem, as I now have version 4.94.2-7 installed.  I know virtually nothing, however, about how MTAs do their work.  Where and how do I make these config changes. I use Thunderbird

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-12-01 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On Wed, 01 Dec 2021, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: This is very likely the problem, as I now have version 4.94.2-7 installed.  I know virtually nothing, however, about how MTAs do their work.  Where and how do I make these config changes.  I use Thunderbird for mail coming from outside the local

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-12-01 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
(such as e-mail from cron jobs). Marc On 11/30/21 18:56, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I am getting e-mails like the one below all the time, now. I had this problem once before and I think that all I had to do was clear the paniclog

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-11-30 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
15:13 paniclog -rw-r- 1 Debian-exim adm 0 Nov  9 23:14 rejectlog - On 11/30/21 15:07, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 01-12-2021 00:00, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I am getting e-mails like the one below all the time, now.  I had this problem once before and I

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-11-30 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
root@quixote:/usr/local/bin# ls -al /var/mail/ total 396 drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail   4096 Nov 30 07:59 . drwxr-xr-x 13 root root   4096 Dec  3  2020 .. -rw-rw  1 marc mail 136846 Nov 30 07:53 marc -rw-r--r--  1 marc mail   9864 Nov 30 15:15 marc.msf -rw-r--r--  1 marc mail 25 Nov 25 23:36

[DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-11-30 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I am getting e-mails like the one below all the time, now. I had this problem once before and I think that all I had to do was clear the paniclog with '> paniclog', but that does not seem to be working, now. I cleared it this morning, and when I just checked it was filling up again. It

Re: [DNG] [OT] historical note

2021-06-17 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 6/17/21 4:59 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:02:35 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 01:29:12PM -0700, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: ... ... Jessie was the first Debian version to use systemd by default as the init. Perhaps, something was

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 5/31/21 1:10 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: No, don't delete it, empty it, this should be the standard practice when manually manipulating daemon log files. I have emptied the paniclog, per you prior directions. Thanks. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 5/31/21 12:36 PM, Antony Stone wrote: On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:25:18, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I couldn't even switch to a terminal where I could kill Firefox. I finally had to simply power down the system. (How I hate doing that!) Hint for the future - if you have sshd running

[DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: - exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, mail system might be broken. The last 10 lines are quoted below. 2021-05-29 19:35:47 daemon: fork of queue-runner process

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space (SOLVED)

2021-03-21 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/19/21 8:31 PM, tempforever via Dng wrote: To find files last modified in January: (adjust the dates as needed; on Mar. 19 this should locate files dated Jan 1 - 31 but it could be off a day or so) cd /media/archives find -type f -mtime -78 -mtime +46 -ls Thank you! That found the

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-19 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/16/21 2:06 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 07:41:42 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: ... tmpfs 2466616 24 2466592 1% /run/user/1001 tmpfs 2466616 24 2466592 1% /run/user/1002 tmpfs 2466616 32 2466584 1% /run/user/1000 Is it possible that one of the users runs

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-19 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/16/21 11:17 AM, g4sra via Dng wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:32 PM, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: On 3/16/21 2:32 AM, g4sra via Dng wrote: --snip-- With your removable drive attached and mounted... Paste the outputs of 'mount' and 'df' when run

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-16 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/16/21 4:45 AM, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: Just to doube check for "human error": Does the output of 'df' match with the output of 'du -sc /path/to/mountpoint/'? The drive in question is /dev/sdb1/ mounteded on /dev/media/. Not an exact match, but not off by 200GB, either.

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-16 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/16/21 2:32 AM, g4sra via Dng wrote: <--snip--> With your removable drive attached and mounted... Paste the outputs of 'mount' and 'df' when run as root. The drive in question is /dev/sdb1. root:/home/marc# mount sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) proc on /proc

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/15/21 2:48 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: You are correct.  I used '+L' NOT '-L'. I would add -nP -> "lsof -nP +L1" If negative, I would go for the ugly path, grep'ing lsof's output on "deleted" or "(deleted)". Past this point, if space of alleged deleted files is not cleared... I

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/15/21 8:23 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:54:20 -0700, Marc wrote in message <74553f6b-2616-70e1-e742-1ce9275b3...@gmail.com>: On 3/15/21 6:31 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:28:32PM -0700, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: On 3/14/21 10:09 PM, L

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/15/21 6:31 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:28:32PM -0700, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: On 3/14/21 10:09 PM, Ludovic Bellière wrote: I assume you read the man page of fsck, as it's return code is what you want to pay attention to. As for lsof, the correct parameters

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
with the stuff that occupies the space, done so in order for you to review. On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:10:03 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I had some large files (over 200GB in total size) that I no longer needed.  So I removed them.  They no longer show up in the directory. However, df, still shows

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 3/14/21 10:09 PM, Ludovic Bellière wrote: I assume you read the man page of fsck, as it's return code is what you want to pay attention to. As for lsof, the correct parameters would be `lsof +aL1 /dev/sdx. It should have thrown an error were you to use `lsof -L1`. If lsof returns nothing,

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
.  It says the partition is clean. Marc On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:10:03 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I had some large files (over 200GB in total size) that I no longer needed.  So I removed them.  They no longer show up in the directory. However, df, still shows the space as being used.  I

[DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I had some large files (over 200GB in total size) that I no longer needed.  So I removed them.  They no longer show up in the directory.  However, df, still shows the space as being used.  I understand that if processes are still using the files they will not be removed until the processes

Re: [DNG] What does this remind you of?

2021-03-07 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
What does apparmor actually do?  It was installed on my system as a Recommends for my kernel (linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64), but I get warnings of some type every time I reboot (which I don't do often, so I can't say just what the warnings are).  Is there any reason to keep it installed?  Or

[DNG] (SOLVED _ I hope) Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 11/15/20 6:40 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 11/15/20 5:00 AM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: If this is a cron job running on your local machine then rather than having to fully comnfigure your MTA to send acceptable emails to gmail (i.e. static ip, spf, dkim, etcetera) it would be simpler to

Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-15 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 11/15/20 5:00 AM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: On Sat, 2020-11-14 at 16:03 -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with configuring an MTA. I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I would like to receive an e-mail

Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 11/14/20 4:12 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 15-11-2020 01:03, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with configuring an MTA. I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I would like to receive an e-mail when the job is completed

[DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with configuring an MTA. I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I would like to receive an e-mail when the job is completed.  I have added a MAILTO line to my crontab with my gmail address.  The job runs, the

Re: [DNG] HPLIP issues (SOLVED)

2020-11-13 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 11/13/20 7:56 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 11/13/20 12:09 AM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 13-11-2020 07:21, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: Has anyone managed to get HPLIP isnstalled and fully running on Beowulf? hp-info works, with a gui interface. hp-levels works on the command-line from

Re: [DNG] HPLIP issues

2020-11-13 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 11/13/20 12:09 AM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 13-11-2020 07:21, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: Has anyone managed to get HPLIP isnstalled and fully running on Beowulf? hp-info works, with a gui interface. hp-levels works on the command-line from a terminal. hp-testpage brings up a gui and prints

[DNG] HPLIP issues

2020-11-12 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
Has anyone managed to get HPLIP isnstalled and fully running on Beowulf? hp-info works, with a gui interface. hp-levels works on the command-line from a terminal. hp-testpage brings up a gui and prints the testpage from there. hp-toolbox is missing its soft link to

Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 10/31/20 10:30 AM, kdibble wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:34:30 -0700 *Michael K. * wrote *establishing connetion to pulsaudio, please wait * (a fresh installed Beowulf wth XFCE has no Sound. ) There was a hint once before on the list to edit "something" in a

Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 10/31/20 3:43 AM, spiralofhope wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the list. I'll re-send this to the list then. :) On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: I think

Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-30 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the list. On 10/26/20 11:47 AM, spiralofhope wrote: TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it

Re: [DNG] Unexpected behavior in Python 3 and QT Designer program

2020-10-03 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 10/3/20 4:09 PM, Ludovic Bellière wrote: Both python and Qt have been upgraded between stretch and buster, as such you have to expect changes in behavior. From what you said, it doesn't seem to be breaking. On 4/10/20 00:45, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I have a program written in Python 3

[DNG] Unexpected behavior in Python 3 and QT Designer program

2020-10-03 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I have a program written in Python 3 that uses a .ui file from QT Designer.  This is the exact same program and .ui file as I used in Debian.  (It is in /usr/local/bin, which I mount in both places.)  It retrieves stock data for up to 30 ticker symbols and runs the data through various

[DNG] (Almost) no sound under Beowulf (SOLVED)

2020-09-27 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:54:14PM -0700, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: The issue that I am having is with sound.  My daughter reported that it was not working.  I tried playing a video (in Firefox) from my login and also got no sound. You've already gotten good suggestions in this thread. I'd concur

Re: [DNG] (Almost) no sound under Beowulf

2020-09-27 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 9/26/20 6:55 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:54:14PM -0700, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: The issue that I am having is with sound.  My daughter reported that it was not working.  I tried playing a video (in Firefox) from my login and also got no sound. You've already

[DNG] (Almost) no sound under Beowulf

2020-09-25 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I have been running Debian for over 20 years, but I want to avoid systemd, so I am trying out Devuan. I installed ASCII a last year and just did an upgrade to Beowulf about a week ago.  My goal now is to get Beowulf to run close enough to my Debian Stretch system that my wife and daughter

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-22 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
o this sounds like it could be the > problem. I'll check it out when I get home, tonight and pass the results > to the list. > > Thanks. > > Marc > > > > On 9/21/20 11:16 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > On 22 Sep 2020, at 12:36, Marc Shapiro

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-22 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
Shapiro via Dng wrote: I have pretty much decided that there is no way to upgrade my Debian system to Buster and keep it usable without systemd.  Since I am set up for multiboot, including Devuan Ascii, I decided to upgrade that to Beowulf and see if that will work for me and the others

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-22 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I do use startx from a terminal login, so this sounds like it could be the problem.  I'll check it out when I get home, tonight and pass the results to the list. Thanks. Marc On 9/21/20 11:16 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: On 22 Sep 2020, at 12:36, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: I

[DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-21 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I have pretty much decided that there is no way to upgrade my Debian system to Buster and keep it usable without systemd.  Since I am set up for multiboot, including Devuan Ascii, I decided to upgrade that to Beowulf and see if that will work for me and the others using this box. After

Re: [DNG] LILO Framebuffer and X screen resolution (SOLVED)

2020-05-27 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
On 5/23/20 2:36 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: I have been using Debian for the last 20+ years.  I don't like systemd and that has kept me on Stretch, where I can still use SysV as init.  I have tried several times to upgrade to Buster without SysV, but have had no luck.  So here I am at Devuan. I

[DNG] LILO Framebuffer and X screen resolution

2020-05-27 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I have been using Debian for the last 20+ years.  I don't like systemd and that has kept me on Stretch, where I can still use SysV as init.  I have tried several times to upgrade to Buster without SysV, but have had no luck.  So here I am at Devuan. I installed Ascii on a separate set of