On 20/05/2022 18:31, Peter Duffy wrote:
> Quite a long time ago, I mentioned that I'd been tasked with upgrading
> some linux VMs running under Microsoft Azure
Very good!
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On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote:
> Like I said in 2014,
> they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd.
They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such that Linux
unavoidably is SystemD.
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reassemble it.
I think this is a very useful and much improved metaphor.
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I'll pass on in case other people here find it useful:
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This is very useful. Thank you.
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efinitely will give up doing their own backups due to
systems like this.
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n anyone say how often this is happening?
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uming social media.
Complex principles (such as software freedom, privacy, and so on) will
always be of conscious interest only to a minority of the people in
general. Regrettably so.
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income from
email signup links.
One might cynically observe that now it seems that money is there,
Thunderbird is back in the Mozilla fold. ;-)
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y forward).
The corporation now has about 15 employees (according to statements on
tb-planning) and so there is not-insignificant income coming in now.
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so I am looking for viable alternatives for both myself and my clients.
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On 25/10/2020 06:33, Simon Walter wrote:
> On 10/25/20 7:20 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
>> The reason for this change is that Thunderbird is deprecating all its
>> old addons (the entire ecosystem) and Enigmail won't work on the new
>> Thunderbird. It's less than satisfac
y with currently available resources is questionable.
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ce of the style of governance of the project. Whether or not it
would be possible to continue Thunderbird development in any other way
with currently available resources is questionable.
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y ISP making changes to
> smtp authentication (now only supporting tls on port 587) without any
> notification. This address is mostly for mailing lists and forums.
Ah, thanks. It does make deliverability easier to send via an
established SMTP server such an on
IPv6 (and
of course not in blocklist and not in dynamic range), all count to
varying extents. The more you can do the better. Also, the larger your
non-spam, legitimate-content volume, the better your reputation (to the
extent that 'reputation
roblem for them to consider at
> all - even though anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can explain the
> many ways in which O365 is fundamentally incompatible with GDPR, but that's a
> different thread altogether.
Yes, GDPR does seem to conflict with O365, no matter what th
haps be an issue nowadays.
I can confirm that I done option 2 in the past to good effect (on
Eclipse Internet in case anyone cares) but I've not tried to do it more
recently. I suspect that some ISPs might be a bit choosy about this
nowadays just in case you're a spammer.
the larger service
provider (e.g. MS/Gmail/Yahoo). Since MS now provides mail services via
O365/M365 for a great many businesses, deliverability to these services
really matters. Sending via an upstream ISP's SMTP server just makes the
issue of deliverability much easier to handle.
d customers.
You'd think that customer pressure would force the service providers to
act more sensibly but because the customers don't *see* the problem they
don't care about it, even small business customers who lose business as
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using this approach? Many cheap VPS IP ranges have a very poor
reputation with larger mail services such as Google, MS, Yahoo, etc.
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ven the average Linux user, I suspect) is not
going to be scripting stuff any time soon (other than maybe by typing in
stuff they Googled).
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are considering
moving away from it) are here:
https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/
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have separate 'Reply to List', 'Reply All' and 'Reply' buttons.
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everyone mentioned in any To,
Cc or Reply-To header.
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ficant
proportion (possibly a majority but it's not certain) of the world's
email and where they re-make the rules to suit themselves. Just be glad
they still support SMTP at all!
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systemd)
understands log priorities.
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r Workground 3.11 in 1992.
As an aside: Windows NT has had symlinks in NTFS since Vista, so about
12 years. :-)
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Or, if I understand this correctly, choose AMD and not Intel.
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is until systemd gets built into the kernel by Red Hat and
everyone else follows suit. ;-)
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ency and success in place.
> Dismiss the circular firing squad, sir.
Good phraseology.
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e taking any new actions?
There is more at stake than this project alone.
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funding possibilities
mentioned will be beneficial.
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is better with you involved than without you.
Thank you for all your work. It has mattered.
If you need to take a break then fair enough, but I am sure that Devuan
will be all the better for it if and when you can return. :-)
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ial service
providers. The builder of the operating system or the software does not
have to be the commercial service provider.
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On 07/12/2018 07:02, Simon Hobson wrote:
> I reckon I managed a better uptime than Microsoft with their Office
> 359 service ;-)
LOL
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significance of technical merit in favour of
happy-huggy feel good factors (which is exactly what the new Linux Code
of Conduct explicitly intends), and it seems to me to therefore follow
that you are putting your projects at risk. I find it difficult to
believe that you really mean this.
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e have taken offence or insult from time to time. For
decades, this has worked well! Let's not change what isn't really broken
(except in the eyes of a small number of over-sensitive, easily hurt
souls). Yes, let's all be *reasonable* with one another. But this
doesn't mean that each a
of even basic human management
> practice - and resistant to learn.
I make no comment about whether or not there is some kind of intentional
plan going on here but I fear that your prediction of where things are
headed is correct.
The values that helped us all and protected bot
e archive searching.
Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be open source, though.
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does. It's clearly intended to appeal to the mass market.
I totally agree that Pipermail is a more functional UI style. I'd be
amazed if someone didn't write a Pipermail-style archive UI for MM3.
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it, modular so it should
possible for someone to write a Pipermail-style archive viewer to work
on MM3. Sounds like an interesting project to learn Python, actually.
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On 12/09/2018 07:34, Mark Rousell wrote:
> By the way, the link I offered (
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ ) is the demo server linked
> from the official HyperKittty docs here:
> https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/mailman/listinfo/dng
HyperKitty (along wi
On 12/09/2018 07:23, Don Wright wrote:
> Mark Rousell wrote:
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>> Although it's still something of a work in progress, it seems that
>> MM3/Postorius/HyperKitty might be a possible solution in that case.
>>
>> (That said, I've just tested the search function on t
of a work in progress, it seems that
MM3/Postorius/HyperKitty might be a possible solution in that case.
(That said, I've just tested the search function on the MM3 demo system
at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ and I have to admit that it
seems rather crude so far.)
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ording to the HyperKitty docs at
https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ this is a demo system:
https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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thus
run local searches and the web UI is functional, if basic.
Or move to MM3 with Postorius and HyperKitty?
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Microsoft. I simply try to be dispassionate when analysing businesses
and business dealings.
> No, but if you give your address I'll have the authority's check on
> her. :)
Hah. ;-)
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IPO, or a sale of the business. It seems that a
sale of the business was what the owners chose.
My guess is that they liked Nadella more than they liked Microsoft and
its history.
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ociated with
them. I have no "very transparent propaganda" of any sort to pass on.
For what it's worth, if you search around you'll find me commenting on
other mail lists from time to time going back many, many years.
Is anyone going to ask me if I've stopped
On 05/06/2018 19:18, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2018 schrieb Mark Rousell:
>> [...]
>> In short, Microsoft isn't a killer. It's a business. Under Nadella, it
>> is doing what is rationally best for itself and, for the foreseeable
>> future, tha
of
Outlook.com and it's massive, isn't it? Hotmail is surely a success
story, or am I missing something?
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t's being promoted by Microsoft. As
far as I can see, Miguel De Icaza is still very much an open source
evangelist, despite working (indirectly) for Microsoft. Just because
it's Microsoft doesn't mean it's somehow not open source.
I understand what you mean about avoiding a rabid d
y wait and see how GitHub turns out under MS's rule.
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their new business
model under Nadella.
In short, Microsoft isn't a killer. It's a business. Under Nadella, it
is doing what is rationally best for itself and, for the foreseeable
future, that is to be friendly to open source and Linux.
Maybe they'll change their minds again but it won't be soon. E
On 05/06/2018 07:19, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 04/06/2018 at 18:40, Mark Rousell wrote:
>> On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote:
>>> Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to kill
>>> open source.
>>>
On 04/06/2018 18:18, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>
> On 05/06/18 02:46, Mark Rousell wrote:> Anyway, I look forward to
> Microsoft Enterprise Linux in due course. ;-)
> NO WAY! It's bad enough with RHEL and it's competitors; if I need that
> brand of Linux, I would go CentOS... but
On 04/06/2018 18:36, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 06:06:33PM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>> I don't want to get into an argument about this as I am not exactly a
>> fan of Microsoft but...
>>
>> My statement that MS were the largest single
On 04/06/2018 17:52, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:40:15PM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
>> I can't see that it would be in Microsoft's interest to kill open source.
>>
>> Aren't they the largest single contributor on GitHub?
>>
> No, they ju
nel developers about
> allegedly "stolen" code from Unix. It's the same company. The same
> people. The same silly faces. The same mindset. The same aims. The
> same methods. The same sour ending. HND KatolaZ
Time will tell, I guess.
Anyway, I look forward to Micro
On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote:
> Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to
> kill open source.
>
> # Serge
>
I can't see that it would be in Microsoft's interest to kill open source.
Aren't they the largest single contribu
On 04/06/2018 16:14, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com):
>
>> To play devil's advocate, what can go wrong?
> Autonomy.
I really can't see anything different about project autonomy before or
after GitHub acquisition by Microsoft. The issue you ela
On 04/06/2018 14:07, Mark Rousell wrote:
> it would even give them a root into the resurgent mainframe market.
Doh...
s/root/route/
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d it all integrates transparently within the
Microsoft ecosystem) and it would even give them a root into the
resurgent mainframe market. I note that SUSE is into OpenStack in a big
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that big ticket new feature has now landed in Systemd.
> Portable services are akin to containers but different."
But who would want to rely on what is, in itself, a non-portable
"containers but different" thing? There are portable ways of doing this,
it would
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