On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:58:11 -0300
pekman wrote:
> Slitaz is very good Linux distribution for old computers. See
> slitaz.org
The latest "news" is from 20 May 2015:
http://slitaz.org/en/news/
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hat board.
I'm running Devuan Beowulf with an Armbian kernel and a "performance"
governor. Someone said that switching to "performance" seems to resolve
the issue.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:15:57 +0100
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> > No need IMHO, it was the core issue...
>
> So you have solved the issue, great!
Nope, we found a Quick and Dirty workaround
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:48:16 +0100
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> >> How do you know the mount is failing ?
> >
> > It's not mounted after mount command.
>
> I have not seen any evidence of that, can you point me to it please.
No need IMHO, it was the core issue...
fail option brought you a bit further.
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bin/dash
echo 5 > /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/delay_use
in a script /etc/rcS.d/00test.sh, just for test, normally you must set
a link.
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"options g_mass_storage delay_use=5" > \
/etc/modprobe.d/g_mass_storage.conf
It's a pretty old kernel, if it doesn't work and the module is built
in, one thing you might try is to put:
#!/bin/dash
echo 5 > /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/delay_use
in a script /etc/rc
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 18:38:48 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-14 17:25, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" >
> > /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
>
> seems not to work.
>
> After
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 17:24:01 +0200
richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
Oops:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
must be:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" > /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 14:12:21 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY
You may try this:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125831
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 13:03:13 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> But if I do it interactively with "sudo mount /hdd" the drive gets
> mounted and the waiting daemons are started.
>
> I'm very confused...
When you mount it interactively the path is different and maybe it's
waiting for some input.
Try
tmp/dmesg
and look if there are any messages there
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:21:51 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 22:10, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > I have no idea. But mountall is in runlevel S, not 2. What if you
> > mount it explicitely in a temporary script
> > called /etc/rcS.d/
unlevel S, not 2. What if you mount
it explicitely in a temporary script called /etc/rcS.d/99mount.sh ? That
is before runlevel 2 starts.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:07:37 +0200
richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
> No, maybe it has got something to do with these "big disk" messages.
> Wouldn't it be an idea to copy a part of that dist to a "not such a
> big disk" and see what happens?
s/dist/disk/
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 20:28:03 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 20:18, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > That was the "rootwait" parameter as I said somewhere. Used for USB
> > and MMC disks.
>
> "The rootwait kernel parameter
/vmlinuz-4.9.223
label=4.9.223
read-only
append="rootwait root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8"
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tarted it. I solved it by adding a delay to the
> kernel before mounting the rootfs - there was a parameter for that.
>
> Maybe it's just enough to add such a delay before trying to mount
> your USB disk.
That was the "rootwait" parameter as I said somewhere. Used f
it does not wait for the device!
> I can't experiment here. If it does not boot I have to remove the
> emmc card and undo the change on my pc.
ok, I assume it's u-boot? In that case you can easily try to boot from
another disk. But apparently you do not have access to the device?
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"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 09:49, schrieb richard lucassen:
> > What is on that disk? Why not make that disk the root filesystem and
> > pass "rootwait" to the kernel?
>
> I'm afraid that won't work either. I
/mount /dev/disk /mnt/mountpoint
;;
esac
put this in /etc/init.d/mount-disk.sh
run: update-rc.d mount-disk.sh defaults
and check if there is a link in /etc/rcS.d/ called S00mount-disk.sh
Just a guess. Not tested of course.
My 2cts,
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ofail 0 2
LABEL=Elements /hdd ext4 defaults,noauto 0 2
Just to see if it comes up.
Just my 2 cts,
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n there
> are multiple good NTP implementations available.
Yes and no:
-n Use SNTP (old RFC 2030, currently RFC 5905) instead of the RFC
868 time protocol.
# rdate -n ntp.xs4all.nl
Fri Jun 12 12:07:04 CEST 2020
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te from a remote host
I use it on boards without RTC, just after the network comes up and
before openntpd takes over. No need for "fake-hwclock".
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The ASCII image is ok, but I updated this image to Beowulf and I used
Armbian kernel with it. But I fear it will crash again. Anyway, I just
got some Rasberry Pi Zero-W now and I think I will stay with these
boards. Remember I have also
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Oh, BTW, kudos for the one who made these images. Just the strict
necessary. No bloat or junk.
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d install from source. I've been running it for months,
replacing OpenVPN Tunnels. WireGuard is much faster, and I found it
easier to configure and debug.
As I understand it, FreeSwan is defunct. but OpenSwan is around. Can't
comment on it, as I haven't used IPSEC VPNs
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The original compiles and runs on my Devuan Jessie system.
Source: https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/djbdns-1.05.tar.gz
Instructions: https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/install.html
On 02/22/2018 04:22 PM, John Crisp wrote:
> Hi,
>
> looking for a little advice.
>
> Have spun up a small Devuan instance for a
me confusion, since both
> > brctl and ifconfig are legitimately deprecated. Assuming you have
> > done better checking, then the failure may be caused by them
> > bailing out.
>
> ifconfig is deprecated? What is to be used instead?
ip
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:39:31 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:11:11 +0200
> richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote:
>
> > > My buddy told me there's an idiot born every minute.
> >
Running Devuan Jessie and finding packages that require libsystemd0. In
particular, clamav-daemon does. This is widely used software. Any hope
for it to eventually be completely free of systemd?
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t. For the moment Devuan is still equipped with udev-systemd,
so Devuan is very very dependent on the systemd guys. Just something
nobody wants here.
And with "freedom of choice" in mind: indeed, it would be nice if eudev
would be available anyway, whether vdev will be continued or not.
R.
O.
And as there has been no response from the original vdev author, I think
it's better to package eudev for Devuan and to make it available for
Jessie and Ascii. The latest version is 3.2.
Any thoughts on this?
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would not exist :)
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:51:55 +0200
Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
> > No. apt doesn't know about the repository :-P
>
> ...until you tell it in /etc/apt/sources* ;o)
Yes, but I don't :)
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Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > On my workstations I have no caching DNS.
>
> The term 'caching DNS' doesn't actually mean anything.[1] All DNS
> software _cach
use split horizon. I
don't use my ISP resolver.
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:25:01 -0700
Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > When you have no network on the machine ntp notes that there is no
> > network, then it stops AFAIK. But if you have a wrong resolv.co
y.
>
> ...until a newer version can be aptitude etc upgrade'd in place... :o)
No. apt doesn't know about the repository :-P
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"Ismael L. Donis Garcia" <sli...@citricos.co.cu> wrote:
> Hopefully in the future we can have 2 alternatives and that the user
> can decide which one to use.
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> right.
That's a script issue. That has a lower priority IMHO ;-)
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:20:58 -0700
Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > I might not have been clear enough. My apologies ;-)
>
> No worries. As an afterthought, though, wouldn't that problem exist
> e
logies ;-)
OpenNTP is running smoothly here btw :)
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As I saw in the manpage of OpenNTP: OpenNTP waits 15 secs max :)
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k things up :)
Tip: use Proxmox, that's very simple:
http://www.proxmox.com/en/
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g ntpd. And I'll have a look into OpenNTP, as stated
elswhere in this thread. Simple and secure and I don't need usec
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st run this as a cronjob, ntpd might be too picky about hwclock
settings:
As root:
dpkg --purge ntp
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -b pool.ntp.org
hwclock --systohc
Then:
echo -e "\n*/5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -b pool.ntp.org" \
>> /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
echo -e "\n/usr/sbin/n
nks out as these would hide settings still pointing
to the /usr structure.
My 2 cts :)
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:54:54 +0200
Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:17:13AM +0200, richard lucassen wrote:
> > We need a vdev package that depends on an empty systemd-udev
> > package. All the other packages that depend on systemd-ud
t; I propose not to git anymore, but to use Aitor's packages and test
> > these. I think there is still a lot of testing and debugging to do.
> > And we need more testers!
>
> Yes, we need testers :)
I have to do some work now, I look forward to the packages. Maybe you
can ad
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:33:50 -0400
fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > firmware=/usr/lib/firmware
>
> I think firmware should be set to /lib/firmware. That's where my
> firmware is. I have no /usr/lib/firmware.
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> apt-get -t nosystemd install udev (honest)
>
> It will rebuild the initrd.
I'll create an extra partition and I will try eudev.
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> > Do you see the same phenomena?
> >
> > R.
>
> Ok, thanks :)
You're welcome. But do you see the same phenomena? ;-)
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gin with.
It builds fine, but it does not work yet. I think there are a bunch of
other things to do. It adds a usb stick as a character device :-)
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, the location for the actions is:
>
> //etc/init.d/vdev/actions/*.act/
The init script has the same name as your directory:
/etc/init.d/vdev
And vdevd is told to use the config file in which is stated:
$ grep actions /etc/vdev/vdevd.conf
actions=/etc/vdev/actions
So, why doesn't i
nd suid is not needed as vdevd is run as root.
When you start your computer, are all /dev/* permissions ok? I have to
restart vdev manually in order to get the right /dev/* permissions.
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Nor am I. But I can build it, but when adding a usb stick it adds it as
a character device :-( And there is little documentation AFAICS. But I
have only played with it for half an hour or so :)
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richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote:
> And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to eudev.
> Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev?
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correctly
at boot time?
And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to eudev.
Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev?
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:59:58 +0100
Simon Hobson <li...@thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:
> How long before he decides that Grub needs "improving" ?
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:34:12 -0400
fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No SD_MOD here...
>
> $ grep SD_MOD /boot/config-3.16.0-4-amd64
find /lib/modules/ -name sd_mod.ko
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richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote:
> But when running:
>
> /sbin/vdevd -v2 -c /etc/vdev/vdevd.conf -l /var/log/vdev/vdev.log /dev
>
> everything seems to work well, the apropiate ownerships and
> permissions are set
e initramfs from the
example directory stops with an error and an empty initramfs file. The
thing I did was symlinking the libudev.so.1
ls -al /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Aug 10 14:08 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1
-> /lib/libudev.so.1
and to run a update-i
needed
> > but just left it so.
>
> All the required modules are included in the kernel:
>
> SQUASHFS
> LOOP
> SD_MOD
I suppose he means to add the modules to /etc/modules to be sure they
are loaded at boot time.
# cat /etc/modules
loop
sd_mod
s
u don't want to run the risk for a bricked
device.
Just my 2 cts. Keep up the good work :)
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the /etc/vdev/actions/* files. Anyone a hint why vdev ignores these
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:23:24 +0200
Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> > I think this question can be removed?:
> >
> > "Participate in the package usage survey?"
>
> It's opt-in, and provides useful data.
It's ok for me, but Devuan != Debian
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I think this package selection option can be removed?:
"Gnome"
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200
richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote:
I think this question can be removed?:
"Participate in the package usage survey?"
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I suppose you haven't tried that? Anyone else maybe?
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:58:01 +0200
richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote:
> The Devuan netinstall iso says:
>
> "A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
> GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
>
> s/Debian/D
The Devuan netinstall iso says:
"A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
s/Debian/Devuan/
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t for udev. It's essential
IMHO. If Devuan stays with udev, it will be swallowed by systemd one
day or another.
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otplugger, wouldn't it be an idea to statically create all
possible devices in /dev (MAKEDEV) and to have the hotplugger just add
and remove symlinks? I know, I'm a noob, I have no idea what I'm talking
about but you never know :)
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Stephanie Daugherty <sdaughe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They won't be using it much longer. Chrome and Firefox are well on
> track to phase Flash out entirely over the next year or two.
Two years is an eternity ;-)
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Anyone here running vdev? I just looked around a bit, but there seems to
be little activity:
https://git.devuan.org/unsystemd/vdev/activity
And anyone running good old MAKEDEV here?
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isit a backdoor
> into your computer.
I know. But webdesigners still use flash on websites. And users want to
use that content.
For that reason I run the browser as a different user that has no
access to my home directory. Sometimes it's annoying, but grosso modo
it works fine.
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of RAM. I use
the plugin with Opera. Opera's new version, which was 64bit-only until
a few months ago, now has 32 bit support.
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n 4.6.3-1~bpo8+1
(2016-07-13) i686 GNU/Linux
Hmmm, why not a 32 bit version? But indeed, that's the problem...
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On 06/09/2016 04:52 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:50:16 +1200
> gordon cooper <gordon_coo...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:
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>> On 09/06/16 02:59, Richard Heck wrote:
>>> Alternatively---here's a crazy idea---we could suspend the mailing
>>
, no need for USB sticks, just a network connection.
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jessie main
What will happen if I uncomment these lines?
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//ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/devuan/
compared to:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/
R.
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tpoint
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> Please correct me if I'm wrong^^
I already tried that of course :-) But this initrd/vmlinuz will ask you
to mount the cd. Of course I can try to use nextserver or something
like that, but I like the Debian option to use a real network
installer. It will simply ask for the repository
pdates
> main contrib non-free
>
> # jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
> deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib
> non-free
> deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main
> contrib non-free
>
>
> On 06/1
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