Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

On 27/02/16 20:42, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:05:50AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] Just for fun, I'd like some opinions. If a Window Manager were integrated with Dmenu (which is trivially easy usually), what hotkeys would you recommend, given that keys can be alt, ctrl,

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

On 21/02/16 07:58, Mitt Green wrote: Edward Bartolo wrote: I think systemd is aimed at desktop users assuming that most Linux users are also desktop users. LOL, since when most Linux users are desktop users? Linux market share on desktop is around 1-2%, while on servers open-source

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

On 17/02/16 03:38, Steve Litt wrote: Where would you suggest I find out more about the practicalities of git? I use it for my own stuff quite a bit, but don't know how to do branches and all that. look at: man gitworkflows that one is more about collaboration and a wider group of developers

Re: [DNG] Docker leaves Ubuntu for AlpineLinux (and hires its dev)

On 11/02/16 21:51, Jaromil wrote: Here the news on Phoronix (well known hangout of systemd hooligans) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Docket-Alpine-Images Very elegant of the editor to skip over the obviously implicit read between the lines. Or am I the only one seeing a

Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

On 10/02/16 10:26, KatolaZ wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:22:15PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:24:38 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager because it's too much baggage, but I have to admit,

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

On 08/02/16 14:18, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: raspbian is in between armel and armhf because debian armel is (or was then) compiled without hard float support while debian armhf is compiled for arm7 ... so since PIs are arm6 with FPU neither

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

On 08/02/16 17:35, Adam Borowski wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: My understanding is that both the rpi0 and rpi1 are based on a ARMv6 chip, which makes them closer to armel than to armhf. So, I'm afraid you're stuck with raspbian for now. raspbian

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

On 08/02/16 09:09, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the arm6 flag, shall we try to put together a devuan for arm6? ..yup, and it is worth the while starting from the Raspian Wheezy flavor

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

On 06/02/16 00:18, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 11:39:15AM +, Simon Hobson wrote: Of course, unless you physically remove support for the virtual filesystem, then there's nothing to stop any program with enough privileges to mount the filesystem when it wants. And that's

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

On 02/02/16 01:58, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 01/02/2016 14:13, Simon Hobson a écrit : Florian Zieboll wrote: For the fun of it, I just ran an "apt-get install --install-recommends --no-install-recommends" and it chose to not install the recommends. The same with contradicting

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

On 01/02/16 22:47, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 01/02/2016 12:09, Florian Zieboll a écrit : florian@nulldevice:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommend APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; #APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "0"; Synaptic will override this setting, if the

Re: [DNG] what is sssd?

On 23/01/16 00:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Does anybody know what sssd is good for? I was a bit surprised to see a whole bunch of these sssd-something packages in debian, while I was searching for sss. It's homepage says: "SSSD is a system daemon. Its primary function is to provide access

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

On 22/01/16 07:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : I suspect that zeroinstall is the native, cross-platform package installer that Rox uses, and quite possibly that a lot of the file-type handlers

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

On 21/01/16 21:03, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 05:57, Simon Wise a écrit : On 19/01/16 04:59, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 Simon Wise<simonzw...@gmail.com> wrote: But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical functionality without a sessio

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

On 22/01/16 02:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : Might it alleviate some of the above complaints? I always use apt-get install --no-install-recommends, or "default upgrade" in Synaptic. And I don't look at the recommended packages :-) This "recommends"

[DNG] Jack or Pulse

On 18/01/16 05:23, Steve Litt wrote: In all fairness, I've found few softwares as difficult to install and get right as Jack. In fact, of the five times I've tried to install it on various distros, I've succeeded zero times. Jack is extremely flexible, and essential if you want what it does.

Re: [DNG] Slackware now uses PulseAudio...

On 18/01/16 12:34, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 18/01/16 14:11, Brad Campbell wrote: On 18/01/16 02:23, Steve Litt wrote: In all fairness, I've found few softwares as difficult to install and get right as Jack. In fact, of the five times I've tried to install it on various distros, I've succeeded

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

On 17/01/16 08:08, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:32:11 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I'm not for a moment suggesting Devuan should remove Debian's libdbus dependency. We have bigger fish to fry. $ apt-cache rdepends libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-3

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

On 13/01/16 10:58, Florian Zieboll wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:34:20 - "dev1fanboy" wrote: hey Florian, I do try to include the inexperienced, hopefully that's not too boring for everyone else. I think I should probably change startx to startxfce4 this

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

On 05/01/16 08:10, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 20:43 +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: k...@aspodata.se writes: chaosesquet...@cock.li: I don't understand the desire to change it at all. See UsrMerge discussion on debian-devel. They wan to move most stuff in / to /usr and make

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

On 05/01/16 10:45, Daniel Reurich wrote: Update: I have raised an issue about no longer merging dmo. There are a bunch of other reasons for removing it as well - but I won't discuss them here. Thank you very much for that. Simon ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

On 05/01/16 10:45, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 05/01/16 11:33, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote: Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always downloaded what I need from dmo when I first

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX

On 05/01/16 00:43, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 04/01/2016 12:29, chill...@use.startmail.com a écrit : Aside from the growing strength of the community, we have seen significant progress towards init freedom in Devuan and the approaching beta release. Important init freedom issues have been solved,

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

On 05/01/16 00:31, Irrwahn wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:52:48 + (UTC), Go Linux wrote: Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always downloaded what I need from dmo when I first install and then

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On 29/12/15 04:37, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100 Your subject intrigues me. There are 2 reasons I prefer LXDE to Xfce: 1) LXDE is much lighter 2) LXDE is more reliable If you can really lighten up Xfce, that addresses #1, and probably to some extent alleviates #2. I

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

On 24/12/15 02:12, Emiliano Marini wrote: Thank you Florian, I didn't know that tool: apt-rdepends - Recursively lists package dependencies I will try it. apt-cache does lots of information stuff including depends, rdepends (which is reverse depends), show (which gives description,

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

On 24/12/15 10:36, Emiliano Marini wrote: Yeah, I checked that manpage, but apt-cache shows no info about recommended and suggested packages, only dependencies (at least in wheezy) apt-cache show package gives info, including recommended. Simon

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

On 23/12/15 02:19, Emiliano Marini wrote: Wow thanks man! # apt-get install --no-install-recommends nmap That can be set in apt's config files, in /etc/apt. It really helps maintaining a system .. you can look at the recommends listed and install the ones you want. I've kept my old