Re: [DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

On Sat, 2021-11-13 at 13:07 +0100, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > > I upgraded from ascii to beowulf, almost everything smooth exceot eudev > which does not upgrade due to this: > > Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... > Since release 198, udev requires

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote: >  Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the non- > merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4 Chimaera > will also be. > I'm not so sure Devuan has to follow Debian with respect to merged- /usr.

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 10:52 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi! > > I migrated a Debian Buster to Devuan Chimaera by already install runit- > init into /target during Debian installation and then switching over > sources.list to Chimaera. > > Debian 11 defaults to usr merge. So the installed

[DNG] Debian/Buster-to-Devuan/Beowulf : Version 3

Hello, The following text file describes the procedure: (replacing Debian's Gnome desktop (default) with Devuan's Gnome) apt-get install emacs-nox apt-get install net-tools emacs ~srs/.bashrc + export PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin source ~srs/.bashrc ifconfig ens3 ... Remove all entries of debian.

[DNG] Debian/Buster-to-Devuan/Beowulf : Version 2

Hello, The following instructions is the first version of how to migrate from Debian/Buster to Devuan/Beowulf. Note that this description does use a fixed network interface. For wireless connections additional tips should be made. The following text file describes the procedure: (replacing

[DNG] Debian/Buster-to-Devuan/Beowulf : Version 1

Hello, The following instructions is the first version of how to migrate from Debian/Buster to Devuan/Beowulf. This description is a complement to the description at: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/buster-to-beowulf which is known to not work any longer. Note that this

[DNG] Help needed:[Fwd: eudev: Methods to detect if running in a container.]

Hello, No replies so far from the devuan-dev list. Maybe with a larger audience I can get some help! Thanks! --- Begin Message --- Hello, I'm trying to solve the problem of detecting if you are within a container, like docker or LXC when running the eudev init script. If true udevd should not

Re: [DNG] Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?

On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 05:55 -0600, hal wrote: > Hi, > I'm in the middle of patching a bunch of systems (Ubuntu, Devuan and > Debian flavors) and noticed Devuan's /etc/os-release file doesn't > contain any VERSION tags. > > This file comes in handy for parsing from shell scripts when >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 18:15 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > > > I just installed a fresh ascii install, ran update-initramfs -u and had > no errors (I did see the same last line that's mentioned). So

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:17 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good measure), > update-initramfs -u still comes back with the same exact output > including that last line... I think your problems are with the new (beowulf) image. It is not using

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:34 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree. > > On both machines it looks pretty much identical. On both machines, it > mentions the following: > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer > required: >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 13:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > apt show showed that firmware-misc-nonfree was not installed manually. > > I tried a apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree but that > didn't do anything except mark it as manually installed. > Did you add non-free to your

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 11:31 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Here is the output from apt when I upgraded. Various repeating messages > about missing firmware. > I haven't rebooted yet, or done anything else really. Slightly worried > I'll lose graphics when I reboot because of the message. ... >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable! (PATH error)

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 12:38 -0300, Gastón via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 12:13:10PM +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > Hello, ... > > Steps to test: > > You can also use country codes: e.g. http://de.deb.devuan.org... > > /etc/init.d/sources.list >

[DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

Hello, We are currently working on updating eudev from 3.2.7 to 3.2.9 for Beowulf. Current version in Beowulf/testing is now 3.2.7-6, and the latest 3.2.9-2 version is in Ceres/unstable. In order to find out any remaining bugs, please test and report back any success/problems/bugs with that

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 09:10 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > > Well Rick, at this point considering all the dust Dan is kicking up > in > public, apparently now intentionally, I'd say he better leave. All

Re: [DNG] [Fwd: Re: [devuan-dev] request of resignation of CenturionDan from caretaking]

further, making Devuan extinct. Is that > your goal? Katolaz and CenturionDan, please continue with your work on Devuan. You should all be able to agree and make sensible decicions in the very small caretakers group. Behave as grown-ups, please. On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 23:12 +0200, info at smallinn

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 23:52 +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 11-04-19 23:38, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > Have I missed something? I want Katolaz back. > > > Who is CenturionDan? And why does he have that much power? > > I am CenturionDan. I don't have any power over Devuan, and

[DNG] [Fwd: Re: [devuan-dev] request of resignation of CenturionDan from caretaking]

Forwarding this mail to DNG too. I think this is relevant to the discussion. Thanks! --- Begin Message --- On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 20:47 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > dear devs > > for having caused the distress of trust within the caretakers group > beyond our agreed liabilities (see licensing

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

On Wed, 2018-11-21 at 12:17 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been following the discussion with interest. It's certainly not a > new discussion, since I remember debating it a good few years back, but > there are still the same opinions and thoughts on the topic that I >

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 15:34 -0400, fsmithred wrote: > Refracta no-dbus build (experiment) > > The subject of running without dbus comes up from time to time in > various places. I decided to try it and see how far I could get. I > started with a debootstrap install of devuan ascii, pinned dbus to

Re: [DNG] popupmenu: a new dynamic menu in Gtk2 for WMs

On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 23:54 +, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi again, > On 17/05/18 21:36, aitor_czr wrote: > > I' ve just pushed the latest code of the popupmenu:  > > > > https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/popupmenu/tree/master > > >  Here you are the .deb packages: > > http://gnuinos.org/popupmenu/

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 14:13 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > Session control permissions issue, XFCE under ASCII,  resolved. I used > the command: > > apt-get install libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 > > The resulting installation removed slim. So, I installed xdm, an > extremely antiquated

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 15:32 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:54:05 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: > > > LXDE/SLiM should work well with consolekit on ASCII, provided you have > > at least the following packages installed: > > > >  ii consolekit 0.4.6-6 > >  ii

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 17:35 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:00 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Please test the upgrade from Devuan ASCII Beta and/or from De??an > > > Jessie and/or from De??an Stretch as extensively as possible, and > &

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:51 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > I don't understand what you mean: > > root@akela:/etc/apt# apt-cache policy sysvinit > sysvinit: >   Installed: 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 >   Candidate: 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 > > The same version is in ascii and in ascii-proposed.  apt-cache

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:00 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 12:11 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > Dear D1rs, > > > > just to let you know that, thanks to the work of Svante and several > > other devs, a new version of policykit (0.105-18+devuan2.9) wi

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 15:18 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:00:15PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > The package still in ascii-proposed, elogind 234.4-2 and sysvinit (2.88dsf- > > 59.9+devuan2) should also migrate to ascii! > > > >

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 12:11 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear D1rs, > > just to let you know that, thanks to the work of Svante and several > other devs, a new version of policykit (0.105-18+devuan2.9) will hit > ascii repos soon. This version should solve most of the problems with > the selection of

Re: [DNG] Dist-upgrade to ACSII error

On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 07:54 -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > I just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and now my eudev version is > 3.2.2-13. And udev version is? > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:52 AM, Emiliano Marini > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:42 PM, KatolaZ

Re: [DNG] MATE, lightdm, policykit-1 and elogind issues: Was: Re: IMPORTANT! How ...

On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 23:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 21:20 +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > On 2/14/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: > > > > > Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. > > &

[DNG] MATE issues: Re: IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 21:20 +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 2/14/18, Irrwahn wrote: > > > Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. > > Actually no, i've installed Ascii for testing purposes and systemd > policykit backend was pulled. What is

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 11:47 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > The problem is an error in eudev.postinst. I'll submit an upgraded package > soon. As for the transitional udev package you can remove it, but don't purge > it until  3.2.2.11 is available. (Or create the symlink as w

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 11:39 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2018-02-11 20:06, schrieb KatolaZ: > > The error is there, and exists only if you have never had udev > > installed. We know how to get around that. Will be fixing that > > shortly. The best way forward is to just symlink /etc/init.d/eudev

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

Hi Tom. Are you sure you are upgrading? As apt-cache policy eudev shows, you already have 3.2.2-10 installed? The only package that can still cause problems is the udeb, i.e. used when installing from the *.iso file. Another problem might that you still have /etc/init.d/udev hanging around: What

Re: [DNG] repackaging tutorial

On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 14:29 +0100, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jan 2018, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Are there instructions somewhere for taking apart a Debian package, > > making changes, and building a Devuan package? > > soon (matter of days) online there will be a manual for using our new >

Re: [DNG] initial elogind package ready / RFC

On Sun, 2018-01-07 at 11:18 +0100, Andreas Messer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 09:55:44PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 04:41:57PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > > On 2018-01-05 20:08, Andreas Messer wrote: > > > > If anyone like to try it out, checkout branch

Re: [DNG] request: please evaluate/provide elogind-or-other ASAP

On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 07:55 +0100, Andreas Messer wrote: > Hi Adam, > > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 11:44:25PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > [...] > > Thus: could you guys please prioritize work on elogind or some alternative? > > Just started yesterday: https://git.devuan.org/amesser/elogind.

Re: [DNG] eudev missing dependency

On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 18:51 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Hi, > > udevd calls mtp-probe: > > udevd[436]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe' 'mtp-probe  > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-4 3 2': No such file or  > directory > > mtp-probe is contained in libmtp-runtime, so eudev

Re: [DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

On Wed, 2017-12-27 at 08:30 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-27 07:57, schrieb Ralph Ronnquist: > > Probably you have the dangling link /etc/rcS.d/S11udev-finish (or > > similar), which would be a remnant from the udev package, and it > > should have been removed when udev was removed. > > >

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 19:17 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Hi, > is there some problem with the naming of network interfaces? > > I have the following lines in my boot log: > > Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network  > interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0 > Sat Dec 23 10:41:48

Re: [DNG] Long boot wait after upgrade to ascii

On Sat, 2017-12-23 at 16:38 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 04:37:10PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > > I now looked up the UUID, entered it in > > /etc/initramfs-tools//conf.d/resume, and now it works as before. > > > > The question remains: which step during dist-upgrade

Re: [DNG] Working with ASCII *ERRATUM*

On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 11:53 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 22/12/2017 à 08:58, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > > > PS please find my patch in attachment. > > This was the wrong patch, against /lib/udev/ifupdown-hotplug,  > falsely renamed. > > Now I attach the right one. Hi, Attached is

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 16:00 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/12/2017 à 15:58, Svante Signell a écrit : > > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:32 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > >   I've just done apt-get source ifupdown. > > > > > >   The source contains two

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 15:32 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > I've just done apt-get source ifupdown. > > The source contains two patches: > 0001-Fix-a-crash-when-multiple-interfaces-are-specified-f.patch > 0001-Unconditionally-ifup-hotplug-interfaces > > So it seems things are well

Re: [DNG] Interface names changed after eudev installation

On Thu, 2017-12-14 at 08:22 +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017 schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: > > Hello, > > > > > > I have run upgrade recently and got eudev installed. > > After reboot I've got some weird names of interfaces: wlp4s0 and > > wwp0s20f0u3i12 instead

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

On Mon, 2017-12-11 at 08:04 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-10 23:25, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: > > Thanks, I should have been more precise: one with a GUI. > > My favourite GUI text editor is Geany. emacs of course :) ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

rdon (again). Hi Steve, Nice of you to write this message. Just one nitpcick: This mail contains: On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + > aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote: and the quote should have been: On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 11:06 +, aitor_czr wrote: > Dear Svante, > On 09/12/17

Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations

On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 22:51 +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf > > >   $ apt-file search dhcpd.conf > > says that the former comes from isc-dhcp-server

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 01:23 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 12/09/2017 12:47 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > Hi aitor, > > > > Looking at the above it was a small nitpick, i.e. a typo in my > > understanding, not a harsh comment. > > > > Have a nice day

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 18:23 +, aitor_czr wrote: > > (just a small nitpick: My last name is Signell, with two l's in the > > end) >   > No need to be harsh..., it was just a typo. Hi aitor, Looking at the above it was a small nitpick, i.e. a typo in my understanding, not a harsh comment.

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 20:08 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Downgrade to 0.8.13?  From the changelog for 0.8.14: > >   * Ignore link state when bringing up hotplug interfaces at boot. > Closes: #814785, #834820 > > # Had a quick look and it *seems* udev is involved somehow ... Just an

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 17:19 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > On 1st Dec 2017, Svante Signel wrote: > "This is a last warning. If you are continuing to not quote previous > mails, I'll never reply to a posting from you again. Learn some > netiquette!" > > Sorry, I had no intention to be rude. Gmail

Re: [DNG] netiquette Was: Re: Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 22:55 +, Rowland Penny wrote: > I hope they do not learn from you, your attitude is atrocious. > Eduardo has a valid problem and perhaps he isn't replying in exactly > the way you want, but so what, be polite and ask again in plain > questions for what you need to try

Re: [DNG] netiquette

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 23:44 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 01 December 2017 at 23:10:10, Svante Signell wrote: > > > PS: Who is the best female skier currently? > > Downhill, slalom, cross-country, or other? Ah, I thought merely about cross-country. You know, No

[DNG] netiquette Was: Re: Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 21:55 +, Olav Selseng Vestreim wrote: > On Friday 1. December 2017 11.10.57 Svante Signell wrote: > > Hi again, > > > > This is a last warning. If you are continuing to not quote previous > > mails, > > I'll never reply to a p

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

Hi again, This is a last warning. If you are continuing to not quote previous mails, I'll never reply to a posting from you again. Learn some netiquette! On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 10:46 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > These are the results. For what? With udev installed (which eudev version are you

Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 09:31 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > This installation was done on ASCII. > > Before this installation Thunar used to auto-list USB thumbdrives. > Running pstree shown udevd is running instead of eudevd although I do > not know whether eudev and udev use exactly the same

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 13:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Can I install eudev without having to use the experimental repository? Add experimental temporarily to sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get download udev, etc., remove eperimental from sources.list HTH

[DNG] Package naming: Was Re: eudev in experimental for ascii

On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 11:11 +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > > Dear D1rs, > > it looks like the package might have hiccups when multiarch is > enabled. In particular, it seems that on amd64 with multiarch enabled > and i386 active, the i386

Re: [DNG] ifconfig deprecated?

On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 23:50 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > No one is removing ifconfig yet, it's merely not installed by default > anymore -- so if you insist, just "apt install net-tools". > > ifconfig is inadequate for a number of widespread setups, though, and will > provide bad output

[DNG] openrc-init: Was Re: Please provide systemd-free libreswan package

On Sat, 2017-11-18 at 01:51 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:42:51 -0500 > "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" wrote: > > > But I understand that the new versions of openrc already bring the  > > possibility of functioning as an init system independently. > > > > In

[DNG] openrc init: Was Re: Please provide systemd-free libreswan package

On Fri, 2017-11-17 at 08:42 -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > But I understand that the new versions of openrc already bring the  > possibility of functioning as an init system independently. > > In that case, openrc could not be used as an alternative init? Yes, openrc is now able to be

Re: [DNG] Documentation format philosophies

On Sat, 2017-11-11 at 13:33 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > >  We use LaTEX in technical documents,  > > LaTeX is wonderful *for what it does*, which is make beautifully > typeset documents whose linefeeds are determined at compile time, not > at read time (like ePub, HTML or Xhtml). The problem is

Re: [DNG] Fresh install of Ascii (was Re: Redhat CEO answers questions)

On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 17:06 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 11/01/2017 05:04 PM, Juergen Moebius wrote: > > it is possible to install a fresh "full" copy of ascii, not an update? > > I neverless updated my systems, sorry. A new installation is allways > > the better way for my. > > Not yet.  

Re: [DNG] Upgrade to ascii not possible?

On Thu, 2017-10-12 at 08:47 -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 10/11/2017 08:15 PM, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've stuck on upgrading to ascii as there is no init-system-helpers > > available. > > Is there any solution? > > > > I see it in ascii main repo. What error message are

Re: [DNG] Systemd-free => Gnome-free? [Was: Re: Gnome?

On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 17:41 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote: > > I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to > > And that's not possible for Gnome, because Gnome depends on systemd. > > If you want Gnome you have to live with

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 16:04 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 15:22 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > > I understand perfectly current situation with Gnome and Systemd. > > But if I cannot offer Gnome 3 to desktop users (or a fork as Mate was > >

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Mon, 2017-09-18 at 13:45 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:02:37 +0200 > > Why in the world would you need Gnome? I don't think we should blindly reject providing Gnome in Devuan. As I wrote, shwsh has already provided the two needed packages: elogind and gnome-settings-

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 14:51 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > I've tried shwsh's procedure and it doesn't work in the first step. > Scenario was: Devuan 8 fresh install with all defaults, and only removed > default desktop with: > $ sudo tasksel remove desktop xfce-desktop > $ sudo reboot You have

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 15:22 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > I understand perfectly current situation with Gnome and Systemd. > But if I cannot offer Gnome 3 to desktop users (or a fork as Mate was > for Gnome 2), Devuan is not an option for me in this area. I run mate in Devuan Ascii. BBL when I

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 11:19 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > I'm trying now to make an installation as similar as possible to Gnome. > XFCE is the best option for a Gnome-like theme and behavior? See https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170918.102751.1992aff3.en.html

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

On Mon, 2017-09-18 at 09:02 +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Is there some published procedure to install Gnome in Devuan 8/9 ? > > I need this to migrate desktop users from Debian & Ubuntu. On IRC September 6 somebody (shwsh) reported gnome running on Devuan. He packaged elogind

Re: [DNG] ascii-security Was:Re: Security updates in Devuan

On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 10:22 -0400, fsmithred wrote: > On 09/07/2017 08:55 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > I think there's nothing in ascii-security and ascii-updates. The Packages > files for both are empty. (I only checked amd64.) > > In contrast to that jessie-

[DNG] Off-topic postings Was: Re: Talos, Intel, libre purism, ...

On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 08:47 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-09-07 08:01, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > Yes, please! Even if some messages are interesting, a majority of them  > > are off-topic for Devuan. This list should concern user feedback, etc. For

Re: [DNG] Talos, Intel, libre purism, ...

On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:11 +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote: > > > This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution > > to Devuan project. > > This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people

[DNG] ascii-security Was:Re: Security updates in Devuan

On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:07 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi John, > > John Franklin writes: > > > I’ve seen several security alerts from Debian, but no matching > > updates in Devuan.  For example, the “file" package has > > CVE-2017-1000249, released yesterday. > > > > > For the stable

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there? UPDATE

On Sat, 2017-08-26 at 06:51 +0100, Dave Turner wrote: > > I have a working devuan ascii with no systemd no dbus no udev and no > pulseaudio on my old iMac. (no X11 either, but we'll come to that) > I installed eudev and then I deleted /etc/init.d/udev and rebooted. ... > udev is gone and is

Re: [DNG] An alternative to renaming [was Re: Proposed change in behaviour for ascii: eudev net.ifnames]

On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 22:16 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Option 3 will break simple-netaid both the frontend and the backend. > Option 1 may not need any code changing. > > What is the advantage if any of naming an interface eth0of1? Why eth0 > is appended with an 'of1'? Why not just use eth0,

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there?

On Sat, 2017-08-19 at 17:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Svante, I replied to Dave's email, not to yours. I did not remove any > quoted text purportedly from you. I did not respond to your response > to Dave. Yes, I saw that you replied to his mail, yes. And I did not say that you removed any

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there?

On Sat, 2017-08-19 at 08:05 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 18/08/2017 at 23:25, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, did you see my mail about interfaces being renamed? This > > one > > from Steve is just adding some more info to the issue, but does not >

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there?

On Fri, 2017-08-18 at 13:45 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:36:12 +0100 > Dave Turner wrote: > > > On 18/08/17 00:22, Joel Roth wrote: > > > deleted /lib/udev and all the sub-directories   > > > > With eudev I have a working keyboard

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there?

On Fri, 2017-08-18 at 16:36 +0100, Dave Turner wrote: > On 18/08/17 00:22, Joel Roth wrote: > > deleted /lib/udev and all the sub-directories > > With eudev I have a working keyboard so today I went in and removed  > /etc/systemd/* . Re-booted and I still have a working keyboard but > no  >

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there Hi > Which desktops work without systemd? > A list would be nice. I'm running mate on an upgraded to ascii VM. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] qemu networking: Was Re: Just out of curiosity, I wondered,

On Wed, 2017-08-09 at 22:45 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > I prefer using a VDE setup, since that lets me run qemu as user (i.e.  > not root) With -net nic -net user,hostfwd=tcp::5556-:22 you don't have to run anything as root as long as the forwarded port is higher than 1024. Additionally for a

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 10:20 -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: > > "Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to > excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 23-Jul-2017." > > I have a Gmail

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: > Hello, > >   everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? Yes, several instances. No problem :) Download: wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/devuan_jessie _1.0.0_amd64_NETINST.iso

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 07:27 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > Yes, I don't know why it's built, and I'm not sure what it is, but > it  > came with the release building. Presumably some setting could be > changed  > to avoid it, but I haven't looked into it. So far I've managed to > just  > ignore it

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 12:14 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170711-23:18+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Now it's sorted right, I hope: > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128#p328 Just FTR, zap got the amd64 packages from me

Re: [DNG] What is GNU/Linux?

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 21:36 +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > My understanding is, that Linux is the kernel, and GNU is the > userland.  > Is systemd part of GNU/Linux? If not, how do we call a systemd Linux? lendows (tm) ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 17:26 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Please provide version 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 of sysvinit-utils on > > your > > web page. Version 2.88dsf-59.9 is not Devuanized!! And update > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128 correspondingly. > Do I understand correctly

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 15:35 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > > > > > $ ls -ltr sysvinit-utils_2.88dsf-59.9_amd64.deb \ > > > > > > This one is not OK, see below. This is the Debian (unpatched > > > version) > > > No, the sysvinit packages you need are 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 and > > > you

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 03:56 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Hi Svante and everybody! > > > > > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 17:54 -0400, zap wrote: > contrib and non-free are unsafe in my opinion... > > > #Contains no source files :( > > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed main Just remove the entries below then. No prob ;) > > contrib > > non-free > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 15:26 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > I've opened a topic: > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128 > and yes I have (one snag left to understand, as per the second post > in that topic) successfully ran: > apt-get source util-linux

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi Svante and everybody! > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm > replying to. zap > might give useful advice, since he --later-- reported he successfully > installed > OpenRC) > > Svante, I'm taking your

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 09:58 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > > > If you are on i386 or amd64 I can send you the required debs for > > 2.29.2-1+devuan1 from ascii-p

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed > it? What > could be the reason that it is missing? Please don't reboot. The file /lib/init/vars.sh from util-linux is essential to have a successful boot. I'll

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 23:22 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170704-17:40+0200, Gionni FireGarden wrote: > Hi! > > Once these are done some day soon, it will contribute for Devuan > becoming such > fuzzy purple kind gentle and mighty beautiful beast... > And (I had this below and other

Re: [DNG] How to disable a service in sysvinit?

On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 21:46 +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:39:03 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > What's the official way to disable a service in sysvinit? In this > > case > > I want to disable sshd so I can put it in runit. > > >

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