Re: [DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-20 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi Aitor, I wonder why it's in /usr/local while the one I've built went to /usr I didn't do something special for this ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
move *systemd* from build-deps? On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 21:15, aitor wrote: > > Hi Yevgeny, > > On 19/4/20 16:49, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng wrote: > > Hi community. > > could someone point out the proper way of avoiding systemd build dependency? > > I find some

[DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi community. could someone point out the proper way of avoiding systemd build dependency? I find some packages require it at build time. https://github.com/libreswan/libreswan/issues/328 for example. It builds fine without it, however debian maintainers need it for their reasons. -- Regards,

[DNG] Support for missing packages

2019-11-28 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, how can one submit a package to devuan? It could be proposed-updates or backports tree. Is there any manual? As far as I understand, there should be some build environment which will make package for all supported platform. How can one reach maintainer to try to build a package and possibly

Re: [DNG] iptables at risk when uprgading?

2019-11-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 at 00:54, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > nftables keeps backwards-compatible tools allowing to load your saved > rulesets from iptables. nftables DOES NOT keep backward compatibility. It doesn't for ebtables at least so I consider it doesn't for iptables/arptables as

Re: [DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware

2019-10-31 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi, > The first thing to try would be to boot the installer media into rescue > mode and try reinstalling grub. Or chroot the installed system and run > grub-install and update-grub. There is no installed grub in this case so there is nothing to re-install. There is no installed system to chroot

[DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware

2019-10-31 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi, I am stuck here with installation on new ThinkPad P43s. Ascii installer doesn't detect any network so I tried to install debian buster and then change to beowulf. However, buster has symlinked /bin and others to /usr so I need to reinstall from devuan iso. The weird thing is that iwlwifi firmw

Re: [DNG] openvpn beowulf package imssing

2019-10-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > seems to be there..: > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowulf/beowulf/openvpn_2.3.10-1+devuan1.html > mirror package : > https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/o/openvpn/ This package isn't installable in beowulf as it's missing libs

Re: [DNG] openvpn beowulf package imssing

2019-10-09 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi, I've been able to build up my own package from debian buster's source removing libsystemd dependency. From my side it looks safe enough, as all systemd-spesific lines in sources are marked with `#ifdef SYSTEMD_ENABLE;` (or similar) So I am not sure why it's missing. Perhaps there is issue with

Re: [DNG] openvpn beowulf package imssing

2019-10-07 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi, > seems to be there..: > > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowulf/beowulf/openvpn_2.3.10-1+devuan1.html > > mirror package : > https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/o/openvpn/ sorry I thought it's from ascii as I have 2.4 from ascii backports. So why there 2.3 version is in beowulf

[DNG] openvpn beowulf package imssing

2019-10-07 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, I wonder why openvpn is missing in beowulf -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] buster - ebtables discrepancy in auto mode

2019-07-30 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Sorry for the mess with paste in previous post. The failing use case is the following: ~# update-alternatives --auto ebtables update-alternatives: using /usr/sbin/ebtables-nft to provide /usr/sbin/ebtables (ebtables) in auto mode ~# ebtables -N TEST ~# ebtables -P TEST DROP Policy DROP not allowed

[DNG] buster - ebtables discrepancy in auto mode

2019-07-30 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, I found that packet nftables recommended by iptables breaks ebtables rules in auto mode as /usr/sbin/ebtables points now to xtables-nft-multi The one upgrading from ascii can lose control over remote system, as the syntax is different. For example: ~# update-alternatives --auto ebtables u

Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII

2019-07-22 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 14:09, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > To do normal browsing, I am using Waterfox which is Firefox without > the late many 'cool' additions. You can also try palemoon, I am using it for many things on devuan. -- Regards, Yevgeny ___

Re: [DNG] missing testing & ceres dists?

2019-06-02 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi, it doesn't work here either. Err:18 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres Release 404 Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.1 80] On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 01:54, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > On 5/27/19 8:41 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > mirror_url is not a valid fully-qualified domain name. > > "mirror_u

[DNG] Contents file generation

2019-05-05 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, could anyone suggest proper way to generate Contents file for local repository? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] aptitude and changelogs

2019-04-27 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hello, is there an existing solution to allow aptitude show package changelogs? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-18 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hi, On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 12:11, Daniel Reurich wrote: > Hi Devuan followers, fans and friends, > > Debian as of the upcoming Buster release looks to be implementing a > merged /usr by default. At this stage there is no plan to make it > forced... but you never know what happens when their Tec

[DNG] KDE on ascii?

2018-02-23 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, did anyone manage to run KDE on ascii? I was trying to install it on virtualbox and it fails to run correctly - the display does not get rendered after login to KDE. It loads initial screen, then the desktop and then it freezes while some elements get disappeared. I have tried to update to

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-02-20 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hi all, I am trying consolekit2 and getting screen locked with KDE on ascii. To unlock it needs loginctl unlock-sessions ut I cannot find it in my system. Does anyone know how to fix that? On 20 January 2018 at 19:28, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:46:33AM +0100, Andreas Messer wro

[DNG] Recent microcode update caused system failure

2018-02-03 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I have updated system today and 3.20180108.1 -> 3.20180108.1+really20171117.1 and it caused following issue with my hard drive. These messages were appearing every few seconds and after a while the system has been hung. I have rolled back intel-microcode and iucode-tool to previous versions

[DNG] repository clashes

2017-12-26 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, can someone provide me with proper and full repository list for ascii, including proposed updates, security, updates and backports? I am noticing some strange behavior with packages.devuan.org/devuan and auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged - not all packages available in both repos so I guess I n

[DNG] Interface names changed after eudev installation

2017-12-13 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I have run upgrade recently and got eudev installed. After reboot I've got some weird names of interfaces: wlp4s0 and wwp0s20f0u3i12 instead of wlan0 and wwan0. How to change them back to normal? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@li

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-06 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 6 December 2017 at 06:54, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > Any good reason to refuse NFS in favor of those? > > In short: no. Just be aware that NFS is as secure as the trusted networks > it > sits on. Any inside compromised machine can jeopardize the whole > distributed > filesystem. > Ok but t

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-05 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 18:16, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky writes: > >> I don't see that it will give lower security than any other FS in this >> case. >> > > Rick is trying to say: NFS has a poor reputation for accidental security > misc

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-05 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 17:14, Rick Moen wrote: > > By 'nougat security model', I meant a network security model that is > fragile because of having no defence in depth, highly vulnerable in the > interior and defended only at the borders. This is a very widespread > problem, e.g., at many corpora

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 14:21, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > > > the NFS connection across the world-wide Internet; it is always on a > > LAN and, given this, I don't see how it can be insecure. > ^^ > Ah, the 'nougat

[DNG] eudev or vdev?

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, could someone enlighten me about differences in eudev and vdev packages? I don't know which one to choose :) -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 03:30, Steve Litt wrote: > > Are a lot of you using NFS? Do you feel safe doing so? > Yes it happens in trusted networks. I don't see any additional security threat in this case. I also use it in some multiple virtual machines setup to minimize hard drive usage. It's also c

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 04:17, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > k...@aspodata.se writes: > >> If you know any specific packages which breaks the "separate /usr" idea, >> please report. >> > > Libraries in these > > libgssapi-krb5-2 > libk5crypto3 > libkrb5-3 > libkrb5support0 > I have rebuilt those above

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 01:13, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: > > "no_root_squash Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for >> diskless clients." >> > > NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for di

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 00:43, J. Fahrner wrote: > Yes I need it for virtual machines so they won't store the same data. > > NFS is not the right protocol for such things. NFS is a *network* storage > filesystem and behaves not like a local filesystem. Through NFS user root > gets mapped to nobody

[DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I am unable to mount empty /usr on jessie. Is there any workaround or should I keep some files there? Or is there any build for libgssapi-krb5-2 to keep its files in /lib? ~# ldd /sbin/mount.nfs|grep usr libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x7f

Re: [DNG] Upgrade to ascii not possible?

2017-10-12 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
You are right, it looks like mirrors aren't updated. When I replaced auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ with packages.devuan.org/devuan/, the upgrade has worked, however I've gotten 300+ orphaned packages. On 13 October 2017 at 00:28, fsmithred wrote: > On 10/12/2017 11:51 AM, Yevgeny

Re: [DNG] Upgrade to ascii not possible?

2017-10-12 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
t; > > On Thu, 2017-10-12 at 08:47 -0400, fsmithred wrote: > > > > On 10/11/2017 08:15 PM, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I've stuck on upgrading to ascii as there is no init-system-helpers > > &g

Re: [DNG] Upgrade to ascii not possible?

2017-10-12 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
017 08:15 PM, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've stuck on upgrading to ascii as there is no init-system-helpers > > > available. > > > Is there any solution? > > > > > > > I see it in ascii m

[DNG] Upgrade to ascii not possible?

2017-10-11 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I've stuck on upgrading to ascii as there is no init-system-helpers available. Is there any solution? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

2017-07-26 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
It's possible to use flashplugin-nonfree for firefox and pepperflash-plugin-nonfree for chromium. You can simply install google chrome - it has flash plugin within the bundle. On 27 July 2017 at 06:27, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > > > You can try Google Chrom

[DNG] apt-file doesn't work (ascii/ceres)

2017-07-24 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I find that apt-file is not showing any results for ascii/ceres repos. ~# apt-file update Ign:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease Hit:2 http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie InRelease Hit:3 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports InRelease Hit:4 htt

Re: [DNG] WICD & DNS & IPv6

2017-07-20 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, which connection manager can also work with 3/4g equipment? On 20 July 2017 at 16:24, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 20 July 2017 at 07:18:34, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > > > Am 2017-07-19 22:21, schrieb Antony Stone: > > > Also, "some network problems" is not a very helpful bug report :

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) On 17 July 2017 at 17:53, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:46:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > thanks for response. > > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I a

Re: [DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hi, thanks for response. Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding both in any of devuan repos. On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have just subscribed r

[DNG] udev replacement

2017-07-17 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello everyone, I have just subscribed recently. Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.