Hi all, I am trying consolekit2 and getting screen locked with KDE on ascii. To unlock it needs loginctl unlock-sessions ut I cannot find it in my system. Does anyone know how to fix that?
On 20 January 2018 at 19:28, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:46:33AM +0100, Andreas Messer wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > So my oppinion is, that, at least for transition or migration purposes > > we need to provide two paths in devuan, the user needs to choose one of > them > > > > - consolekit(2) + policykit > > - elogind + policykit-logind > > > > Dear Andreas, > > I respectfully disagree on that point. Devuan should always allow a > third option, that is: > > - none of the above > > and a fourth option, that is: > > - mix and match, at your own risk > > This is an attitude that we can't relinquish, whatever the cost. It's > at the very heart of Devuan. Not all Devuan users want to have a fully > "featured" desktop, and they must retain the possibility of *not* > having any of that cruft in their systems (yes, I normally consider > that stuff *cruft* in my systems, and I am definitely one of those > choosing "none of the above"). Many Devuan users are natural > tinkerers, to whom experimenting is at the heart of their GNU/Linux > experience. Many more are server users, and don't give a toss to the > elogind + policycit + consolekit clusterfuck anyway. > > Being a universal operating system is about allowing users to choose > what to use and what to discard, avoiding unnecessary > entanglement. That's why we are here. > > > > Generally i would like to see get rid of all systemd originating software > > monoliths. So what i could imagine: > > > > - Create a logind replacement which redirects all dbus queries to > consolekit > > and let consolekit doe the session management. dbus queries for which > no > > consolekit stuff exists (e.g. shutdown/reboot...) could be simply fan > out > > into an external command, e.g. shell script. Its up to the > > administrator/maintainer whats happens then. Using this we can have > consolekit > > and logind api at the same time while not struggling with two session > > management systems. > > > > - Create a minimal logind replacement which uses unix commands as > thought of > > by Adam. This can be used by people who want install DEs requiring > logind > > but dont want ck or logind to be installed > > > > If this is possible, every one can choose what he like and what fits > > her/his needs. That is the spirit of linux. > > > > To create something we need creators. Personally, I am not interested > in desktop-things (it should be very clear by now :P), so I don't see > myself actively working to develop replacements for those components. > > I am otherwise interested in experimenting with different possible > alternatives for device management (mdev/smdev?), init systems > (sinit?), and process management (perp?), and in possibly making them > available in Devuan for those who like minimalism. That's my personal > goal for after ascii will be out. > > Developing a universal operating system is about me and you working at > the same distribution, with goals as different as a microminimal > shell-only system and a full-featured gorgeous desktop environment, > and still not noticing any inconsistency. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] > [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] > [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] > [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > -- Regards, Yevgeny
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