On 5/26/21 5:23 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 04:23:56PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
On 5/26/21 12:37 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there.
If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency.
AFAICT, it requires a
On 5/26/21 12:53 AM, Rowland penny via Dng wrote:
Why would you want to remove something that works ?
It just needs an init script.
I've been shown by Rowland that a lot of it does work without systemd
and, yes, an init script is needed, which I've submitted upstream,
thanks to Rowland.
Hi Mark (and everyone else on the list!),
Mark Hindley writes:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 07:03:16PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> Is this the rule for all packages that have dependency on SystemD for some
>> functionality ?
>
> My personal opinion on this is yes.
Add mine!
> Non systemd init
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 04:23:56PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
> On 5/26/21 12:37 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there.
> >
> > If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency.
>
> AFAICT, it requires a systemd socket. It doesn't
On 5/26/21 12:37 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there.
If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency.
AFAICT, it requires a systemd socket. It doesn't require any systemd
packages (debs). Would that still be considered a dependency
On 5/26/21 1:25 AM, Rowland penny via Dng wrote:
On 25/05/2021 17:09, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
...
Have you seen Cockpit working on Devuan system?
Yes, I had it running on my old Samba AD DC's and I now have it running
on a Devuan Unix domain member on my way to installing the Samba AD DC
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 07:03:16PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> Is this the rule for all packages that have dependency on SystemD for some
> functionality ?
My personal opinion on this is yes. Non systemd init is still possible in
Debian. So it appears some current versions of cockpit will not
Thanks for chirping in Mark.
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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:37 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there.
>
> If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency.
>
> If the dependency were present, amprolla
On 25/05/2021 17:09, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Dnia Tue, May 25, 2021 at 04:53:29PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng napisał(a):
After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run
and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets.
IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything
Dnia Tue, May 25, 2021 at 04:53:29PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng napisał(a):
> > After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run
> > and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets.
> >
> > IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything related, but use stubs and
On 25/05/2021 05:42, Simon Walter wrote:
Hi all,
I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan.
The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available
in the default repos.
After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run
and to my
This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there.
If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency.
If the dependency were present, amprolla would exclude cockpit from the Devuan
archives.
So I suggest you submit a bug to Debian's BTS asking for the explicit systemd
On 25-05-2021 17:22, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> <--snip-->
>
>>> I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of
>>> resources.
>>> There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function
>>> without SystemD.
>>> If every one were identified, then removal
<--snip-->
> > I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of
> > resources.
> > There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function
> > without SystemD.
> > If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be
> > justified.
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:45:49AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
>
> > I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan.
> > The reason I wanted to do this is because
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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan.
> The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in
> the default repos.
>
> After installing it on
Hi all,
I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan.
The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in
the default repos.
After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run
and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o
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