Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Stephan Seitz writes: > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >>> >>> It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can >>> still

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 19:27, Steve Litt a écrit : Vim or Emacs. You can only have one. Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua. You can only have one. Mutt or Thunderbird. You can only have one. Sysvinit, runit, s6, perp or Epoch. You can only have one.     kernel, can you have two?     fstab, can you have

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-24 Thread Didier Kryn
    I think this is desired only if you want to enable both rc init scripts and runit scripts on the same system, which, in my opinion is not a sane configuration. "Sane configuration." Have you been talking to my psychiatrist again? I was involuntarily committed in 2009 for running

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Antoine
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message > <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>: > > > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > >     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread g4sra
>> As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it >> from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in Debian, >> but gave up later. Or it never really worked. I frequently used (and liked) chkconfig because it did work well on Red Hat Distros. I can see that

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:45:19 +0200 Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" > >> > >> It's no longer present in Debian stable

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/23/18 4:27 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi, Bruce Ferrell writes: [...] If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not start a process present in the init system", There is a command, chkconfig: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Stephan Seitz (stse+dev...@fsing.rootsland.net): > As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it > from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in > Debian, but gave up later. Or it never really worked. It may be of interest that the Red Hat 'chkconfig'

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can still

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can still find it in oldstable (jessie) though. See

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > Bruce Ferrell writes: > > > [...] > > > > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not > > start a process present in the init system", There is a command, > > chkconfig: > > Make that: "there

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Bruce Ferrell writes: > [...] > > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not > start a process present in the init system", There is a command, > chkconfig: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later.

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 10/21/18, Alessandro Selli wrote: > I don't think init scripts are considered configuration files, as in > fact the are not. ... > So, I expect an update to overwrite the init script with the update's > version regardless, and to reset the permissions to those set in the > package. All

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:09:55 +0100, Simon wrote in message <5f3ba84f-752c-4bee-b0c6-8e31b10f3...@thehobsons.co.uk>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o) > > TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for **usefully** using > lots of

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/22/18 6:14 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have special, fixed meaning. There is *currently* no way of naming a runlevel using more than one character, due to the way the

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Simon Hobson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o) TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for **usefully** using lots of runlevels. To start with, (near enough) every package comes with a control script for rc to use - and which contains comments to signal to

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:14:48 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181022131448.c77g4mldzlcjv...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have > > > special, fixed meaning.

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have special, > > fixed meaning. There is *currently* no way of naming a runlevel using > > more than one character, due to the way the "change runlevel" > >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:40:20 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181022104020.acw7kg5hbcnfd...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message > >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message > <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>: > > > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > >     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/10/2018 à 23:18, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>: Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab; the following line

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit : > >     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab; > > the following line invokes the daemon which launches all the >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 21/10/18 at 15:32, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:50:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000 >> Joel Roth wrote: >> >> I don't remember the symlink maintenance scripts, so I >> usually do this: >> >> chmod a-x /etc/init.d/exim4 >> Does your next

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab; the following line invokes the daemon which launches all the scripts: si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS     Well, there is also the following lines: l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:50:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: > > > > > In

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 21.10.18 08:18, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: > > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from > > starting a daemon. > > man update-rc.d > > You can remove or disable a service. And e.g. "view /etc/rc2.d/README" recites chapter and verse,

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: > > > > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit > > > > from

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote: > > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: > > > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from > > > starting a daemon. > > > > man update-rc.d > > > > You can remove

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote: Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting a daemon. man update-rc.d You can remove or disable a service. Jochen Can a person simple remove the 'exe' properties from the rc-*

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt: In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting a daemon. man update-rc.d You can remove or disable a service. Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting a daemon. Yeah, I know I could research this, but I don't need to become a sysvinit expert when so many such experts reside here. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt September 2018 featured book: Quit Joblessness: