Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > this weekend the news of our release made a splash on community fora, > namely hackernews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17274623 where > our effort was always heavily denigrated and mocked, now starts > emerging some reasonable feedback. And last not

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-10 Thread Antonio Volpicelli
Congratulations to all, great work!! \o/ Antonio On 09/06/2018 14:08, Daniel Reurich wrote: Thanks to the work of my friends and fellow hackers we have another blow for freedom. An OS to truly be proud of, beautifully stable and just as it should be. Big shout out to (in no particular order)

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-10 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 10-06-18 14:27, Jaromil wrote: > > this weekend the news of our release made a splash on community fora, > namely hackernews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17274623 where > our effort was always heavily denigrated and mocked, now starts > emerging some reasonable feedback. And last not

[DNG] Devuan package information

2018-06-10 Thread KatolaZ
Dear D1rs, just to let you know that the Devuan infrastructure include a new service: https://pkginfo.devuan.org which allows to access information about the package available in Devuan. It's very basic, and we plan to improve it with time, but gets the job done, somehow. HND KatolaZ --

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-10 Thread Jaromil
ahoy! On Sat, 09 Jun 2018, Irrwahn wrote: > Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 09.06.2018 07:05: > > Dear Init Freedom Lovers > > > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > > > We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is > > finally available.[...] > > Omedetō

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-09 Thread Irrwahn
Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 09.06.2018 07:05: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is > finally available.[...] Omedetō gozaimasu, Devuan ASCII! Yet another important milestone on the

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-09 Thread Daniel Reurich
Thanks to the work of my friends and fellow hackers we have another blow for freedom. An OS to truly be proud of, beautifully stable and just as it should be. Big shout out to (in no particular order) golinux, KatolaZ, fsmithred, gnu_srs, jaromil, parzyd, Evilham, NewGNUguy and many others.

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 at 07:05:12 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is > finally available. I did notice: $ lsb_release -d Description:Devuan

[DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-08 Thread Veteran Unix Admins
Dear Init Freedom Lovers Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is finally available. Devuan is a GNU+Linux distribution committed to providing a universal, stable, dependable, free software operating system that uses and

Re: [DNG] Devuan mailing list

2018-06-05 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 08:15:59PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Over on devuan mailinglist a simillar bird apeared with simillar tone ... > > but he quickly lost his temper :-) > > Devuan mailing list? > Isn't *this* the devuan

[DNG] Devuan mailing list

2018-06-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 08:15:59PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Over on devuan mailinglist a simillar bird apeared with simillar tone ... but > he quickly lost his temper :-) Devuan mailing list? Isn't *this* the devuan mailing list? Or have I been missing something? -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso UPDATE

2018-06-02 Thread Dan Purgert
On 05/31/2018 04:42 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Am Donnerstag 31 Mai 2018 schrieb Stefan Krusche: >> Good day everyone, >> >> while starting the devuan installer from >> devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_amd64_netinst.iso and initiating to continue with ssh >> remote install (in graphic expert install mode)

Re: [DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso UPDATE

2018-06-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Stefan, Stefan Krusche writes: > Am Donnerstag 31 Mai 2018 schrieb Stefan Krusche: >> Good day everyone, >> >> while starting the devuan installer from >> devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_amd64_netinst.iso and initiating to continue with ssh >> remote install (in graphic expert install mode) the

Re: [DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso UPDATE

2018-05-31 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Donnerstag 31 Mai 2018 schrieb Stefan Krusche: > Good day everyone, > > while starting the devuan installer from > devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_amd64_netinst.iso and initiating to continue with ssh > remote install (in graphic expert install mode) the installer showed its > fingerprint as SHA256:xxx,

[DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso

2018-05-31 Thread Stefan Krusche
Good day everyone, while starting the devuan installer from devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_amd64_netinst.iso and initiating to continue with ssh remote install (in graphic expert install mode) the installer showed its fingerprint as SHA256:xxx, which was new to me. It used to be an RSA key

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0 RC - Strange dependencies with FreeRadius?

2018-05-28 Thread Mike Tubby
Yup, that made a huge improvement - thanks. On 5/27/2018 12:16 PM, Rowland Penny wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:02:36 +0100 Mike Tubby wrote: I have built a new internet router/firewall box with an old Dell R610 and lots of Ethernet interfaces. Installed Devuan Ascii 2.0 RC 'non graphical'

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0 RC - Strange dependencies with FreeRadius?

2018-05-27 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:02:36 +0100 Mike Tubby wrote: > I have built a new internet router/firewall box with an old Dell R610 > and lots of Ethernet interfaces. > > Installed Devuan Ascii 2.0 RC 'non graphical' install (no X, no > desktop), yet when I go to install FreeRADIUS

[DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0 RC - Strange dependencies with FreeRadius?

2018-05-27 Thread Mike Tubby
I have built a new internet router/firewall box with an old Dell R610 and lots of Ethernet interfaces. Installed Devuan Ascii 2.0 RC 'non graphical' install (no X, no desktop), yet when I go to install FreeRADIUS server it appears to want to pull in a load of cruft including: * Java/JRE *

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

2018-05-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/09/2018 03:38 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: Dear Init Freedom Lovers, [snip] When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of SysVinit and OpenRC. * * \ o /

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

2018-05-09 Thread メット
On 2018年5月10日 7:11:07 JST, Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: >Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > >Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > >We are happy to announce that the Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate >is now available thanks to the support, feedback, and

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, [snip] > When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of > SysVinit and OpenRC. * * \ o / \|/ |S T R O N

[DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

2018-05-09 Thread Veteran Unix Admins collective
Dear Init Freedom Lovers, Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! We are happy to announce that the Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate is now available thanks to the support, feedback, and collaboration of the Devuan community. Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable will be following soon. The Devuan

Re: [DNG] Devuan on ARM Notebooks

2018-04-23 Thread golinux
On 2018-04-23 04:45, J. Fahrner wrote: Hi all, is there a list which ARM notebooks (Pinebook, Chromobook, ...) Devuan can run on? (and which image to use for installation) Jochen ___ This is the only one that I'm aware of.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on ARM Notebooks

2018-04-23 Thread chillfan
At least two of the ASUS Chromebooks can be used with the embedded images on files.devuan.org//embedded/ The two are: acer chromebook (chomeacer.img.xz) Veyron/rockchip (chromeveyron.img.xz) I'm not familiar with all the models (wikipedia may help), but I can tell you veyron works on the ASUS

[DNG] Devuan on ARM Notebooks

2018-04-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi all, is there a list which ARM notebooks (Pinebook, Chromobook, ...) Devuan can run on? (and which image to use for installation) Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie - debian-installer: Installation freezes with "The attempt to mount a files system with type ext4 in SCSI1 (0, 0, 0), partition #1 (sda) at / failed."

2018-04-18 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Ozi, On 17/04/18 23:24, Ozi Traveller wrote: Hi I've created a jessie iso using live-build scripts. It boots to a live session and everything seems to be working. The issue come when I run the install, graphical or text bot stop during the partitioning with the following message:

[DNG] Devuan Nagios Icons

2018-04-17 Thread Linux O'Beardly
Does anyone with more patience and/or graphics experience have any 40x40 Devuan icons I can use for Nagios? -- Linux O'Beardly @LinuxOBeardly http://o.beard.ly linux.obear...@gmail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Devuan Jessie - debian-installer: Installation freezes with "The attempt to mount a files system with type ext4 in SCSI1 (0, 0, 0), partition #1 (sda) at / failed."

2018-04-17 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi I've created a jessie iso using live-build scripts. It boots to a live session and everything seems to be working. The issue come when I run the install, graphical or text bot stop during the partitioning with the following message: debian-installer: Installation freezes with "The attempt to

[DNG] Devuan jessie booting to a blank screen [Was: Re: Solved with Jessie netinst, but not Ascii.

2018-03-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.03.18 19:58, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 19.03.18 11:46, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > as a workaround, I'd try to use the netinstall image, if there's a > > connection available for that machine. > > Thanks Florian, that worked with devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_NETINST.iso After the

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-07 Thread ghostlands
Fear not, I did in fact already change my sources.list to the onion addresses since reading that thread. I could have mentioned that, but it didn't relate to my question, so. As for Onionshare in Jessie. I did already state that when I was in Jessie, it wasn't available then, either, and that

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-07 Thread ghostlands
apt-cache policy onionshare onionshare: Installed: 1.3-1 Candidate: 1.3-1 Version table: *** 1.3-1 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status I've compiled and installed Onionshare myself, btw. This isn't Onionshare from any Debian repo. I uninstalled it, refreshed my packages, and the output

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 01:49:10AM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > Wow. I just read that thread with Fungal. I bet it was slightly traumatizing > that I brought up anything even somewhat related. ...and I have noticed that you write from the same domain of Fungal, that you reply to the sender putting

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-01 Thread ghostlands
Wow. I just read that thread with Fungal. I bet it was slightly traumatizing that I brought up anything even somewhat related. Sorry about that, everyone >_< Anyway, that thread very clearly answered most of the questions I've asked, so that's great. I'm still unsure why Onionshare isn't

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-01 Thread ghostlands
I started out using Devuan Jessie, and onionshare wasn't available to me then either. In Debian currently It's listed in Jessie, Wheezy, and SId. I know people hate bug reports without fine-grained detail, but I've stated explicitly that I only have vague information. I understand it's

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 03:13:24PM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > As I said, I'm not sure, it seems intermittent. Vaguely, and this is the main > thing, I think I'm not always getting the full packagelist. SOometimes there > are packages I know are available in Debian without systemd dependencies,

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-03-01 Thread ghostlands
As I said, I'm not sure, it seems intermittent. Vaguely, and this is the main thing, I think I'm not always getting the full packagelist. SOometimes there are packages I know are available in Debian without systemd dependencies, but they don't appear in Synaptic. Onionshare is one example.

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:14:35AM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > Just a heads up, I've also been having some weird issues doing package > management over tor. I can't really articulate them, because it's pretty > confusing. Partially it may be because I don't understand packagemaster and > how the

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-28 Thread ghostlands
Just a heads up, I've also been having some weird issues doing package management over tor. I can't really articulate them, because it's pretty confusing. Partially it may be because I don't understand packagemaster and how the process of redirecting to debian repos actually works. But any time

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-25 Thread Antonio Trkdz.tab
Hi, I had the same problem of XFCE not being able to restart/shutdown/suspend. libpolicykit-agent-1-0 and policykit-1 were being held back on apt-get upgrade. When installing explicitly they were pulling ibpolkit-backend-systemd and libpolkit-gobject-systemd (among others) as dependencies as I

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-17 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-17 08:02, schrieb Edward Bartolo: I have these 'kit' packages installed if that is relevant: << ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd640.105-9+devuan1 amd64PolicyKit Authentication Agent API ii libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 0.105-18 amd64

[DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-16 Thread Edward Bartolo
Dear All, Updating ASCII on HP Probook 4540s resulted in the logout dialog box in XFCE 4.12.3-4 presenting 'restart', 'shut down', 'hibernate' and 'suspend' buttons disabled. I can only log off to slim. Running "/usr/bin/xfce4-session-logout" as an unpriveleged user from terminal did NOT

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-16 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:11:30AM +, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > > > Dear dev1rs > > > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release > of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins >

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Fungal-net writes: > Please don''t let the Grouch break up your valentine party but would > anyone care to elaborate on the following scenario? > > We have Joe, Jill, Jack, and Mindy. > Joe is running Wheezy and converts to Ascii > Jill is running Devuan 1 Jessie and converts to ascii >

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Jaromil
Thanks for your accurate answer Patrick if Fungal keeps pontifying unsubstantiated claims and denigrating conspiracy theories against us after your answer, it will be banned from here too. OTOH to anyone who is reading and wants to bring to our attention a problem in beta: you are welcome to

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Patrick Meade
On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 20:07 -0500, Fungal-net wrote: > Because as per a couple of hours ago it seems as I have been exposed > to this amprolla3 for 4-5 months now, without knowing, and although I > run about the same stuff on a test debian isntallations, pkgs there > rain down to the level of

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Fungal-net
Please don''t let the Grouch break up your valentine party but would anyone care to elaborate on the following scenario? We have Joe, Jill, Jack, and Mindy. Joe is running Wheezy and converts to Ascii Jill is running Devuan 1 Jessie and converts to ascii Jack is running Stretch and converts to

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release > of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins > declared

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Chillfan
Very nice and well done, the new installer presets leave us spoilt for choice.. openrc and a bunch of desktops to choose from.. great stuff. chillfan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-14 11:47, schrieb Didier Kryn:     After the upgrade, the shutdown and reboot buttons in xfce just do the same as the button to terminate the session. No way to shutdown/reboot other than loging in as root. Looks like the same problem I had. If you have libpolkit-backend-systemd and

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Didier Kryn
    Just updated/upgraded my Devuan-ASCII after the announce, using Synaptic.     Process was dodgy: some policykit packages had to be removed *before* upgrading task-desktop. Doing all at once would mark packages as broken.     After the upgrade, the shutdown and reboot buttons in xfce

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:55:46AM +0100, Stefan Mark wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** > > http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii > > > 404 :) > I think its

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Irrwahn
Stefan Mark wrote on 14.02.2018 10:55: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > >> **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** >> http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii >> > 404 :) > I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ Yes. 8^) And @all:

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Irrwahn
Happy VUAlentine's Day, Devuan! :) May you manifold and spread all the love that dedicated people put into you! Urban -- Sapere aude! Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 14.02.2018 10:48: > > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Stefan Mark
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** > http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii > 404 :) I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ pgpwVqrDSE6Ak.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread Veteran Unix Admins
Dear dev1rs the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins declared their intention to fork Debian on November 27th 2014 [2]. That was the beginning of our collective

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] RFC: Draft call to action for interested users to test elogind/policykit1 with various desktop environments

2018-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 20 January 2018 at 13:17:01, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Where are these virtual machine images? Are they for Qemu? What VM images are you referring to? Which posting are you replying to? I've not seen any postings here pointing or referring to VM images... Antony. -- I conclude

[DNG] [devuan-dev] RFC: Draft call to action for interested users to test elogind/policykit1 with various desktop environments

2018-01-20 Thread Edward Bartolo
Where are these virtual machine images? Are they for Qemu? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] RFC: Draft call to action for interested users to test elogind/policykit1 with various desktop environments

2018-01-20 Thread Andreas Messer
Hey Irrwahn, On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:33:09AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: > Dear Devuan Devs, > [...] > Please comment about any issues you see with this approach in general, > or the draft document in particular. Furthermore, please let me know > your thoughts on where such a call to action should

Re: [DNG] Devuan Missing Icons GdkPixbuf-WARNING

2018-01-18 Thread fsmithred
On 01/17/2018 07:21 PM, Lee Gold wrote: > Hi I am trying live iso: > > devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso > > > So far in Synaptic and thunar I get blank windows, I mean all the > expected icons are not there: > > root@devuan:/home/devuan# synaptic > > (synaptic:13561):

[DNG] Devuan Missing Icons GdkPixbuf-WARNING

2018-01-17 Thread Lee Gold
Hi I am trying live iso: devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso In root terminal I did,( I don't know whether the issue was caused by this ) but to be complete I did: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade So far in Synaptic and thunar I get blank windows, I mean all the expected icons are

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

2018-01-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 05:46:05PM -0600, Don Wright wrote: > Might as well start a thread for those of us who /didn't/ have significant > issues upgrading from Devuan Jessie to ASCII as our part of the sprint, just > to provide some balance to the problem-oriented bug database and other >

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

2018-01-03 Thread Luke Diamand
On 2017-12-23 23:46, Don Wright wrote: > Might as well start a thread for those of us who /didn't/ have significant > issues upgrading from Devuan Jessie to ASCII as our part of the sprint, just > to provide some balance to the problem-oriented bug database and other > reports. I'll reply

Re: [DNG] Devuan releases and roadmap

2017-12-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 05:38:47PM +0100, Michael Siegel wrote: > Am 28.12.2017 um 14:45 schrieb Mike Tubby: > > [...] > > > Reading the 'Release Information' at: > > > > https://devuan.org/os/releases > > > > it is not terribly clear to me exactly which Debian 'Jessie' the Devuan > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan releases and roadmap

2017-12-28 Thread Michael Siegel
Am 28.12.2017 um 14:45 schrieb Mike Tubby: [...] > Reading the 'Release Information' at: > > https://devuan.org/os/releases > > it is not terribly clear to me exactly which Debian 'Jessie' the Devuan > 'Jessie' is built upon - the reason for this is that Debian has 'point > releases', e.g

Re: [DNG] Devuan releases and roadmap

2017-12-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 01:45:52PM +, Mike Tubby wrote: > > How long are Devuan releases, like Jessie, going to be supported? Debian > Jessie appears to end at the end of 2018, according to this: Devuan jessie is an LTS release. it will be supported at least until Debian Jessie LTS, i.e.,

[DNG] Devuan releases and roadmap

2017-12-28 Thread Mike Tubby
Hi All, Seasons greetings! I'm working on a vehicle router project based on i.MX6 and we were, until a few days ago, using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS armhf.  I was about to migrate to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when I noticed that systemd had taken over but not all of my hardware management leaving me stranded

[DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

2017-12-25 Thread Edward Bartolo
Jessie (Devuanised) upgrade to ASCII was successful with a few dpkg messages. The system asked how and when daemons could be restarted and listed non-empty directories that couldn't be removed. The adwaita icons failed to be copied: the upgrade gave me this warning. I also ended up with two

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

2017-12-23 Thread Don Wright
Experimental subject is an Intel Pentium Core2Duo e6300, ASRock P43DE mainboard, 4GB RAM, MSI (nVIDIA) NX6200TC-128G video, wired gig-E network, SATA HDD, everything in / except separate swap - a pretty plain toybox. It had served as my primary machine, then was regularly used to demo Linux at

[DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

2017-12-23 Thread Don Wright
Might as well start a thread for those of us who /didn't/ have significant issues upgrading from Devuan Jessie to ASCII as our part of the sprint, just to provide some balance to the problem-oriented bug database and other reports. I'll reply separately with my own narrative.

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] ZFS Packages

2017-12-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 04:15:38PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Jaromil wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Chris Dos wrote: > > > > > Know nothing about zfs? Well, don't start learning it as you will > > > probably > > > not want to use anything else. > > > > I confirm this :^)

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] ZFS Packages

2017-12-22 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Chris Dos wrote: > > > Know nothing about zfs? Well, don't start learning it as you will probably > > not want to use anything else. > > I confirm this :^) real pity for the licensing... but yea, btrfs still > can't cover all

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] ZFS Packages

2017-12-22 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Chris Dos wrote: > Know nothing about zfs? Well, don't start learning it as you will probably > not want to use anything else. I confirm this :^) real pity for the licensing... but yea, btrfs still can't cover all functionalities of ZFS, just some. I run a ZRAID since years

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.12.17 10:08, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Bundling various functionalities associated with an OS with an init, > is a subtle way of 'encouraging' users to stick with that 'init'. That seems overly kind to an obvious effort to create an M$-like monolith which is too expensive time-wise to adapt

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-20 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/12/2017 à 18:08, Michael Siegel a écrit : > > The point I was trying to make there, was that the way the article > > states those facts is misleading, not that they are actually untrue. It > > just really provokes the question "So, why use Devuan at

[DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-20 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 20/12/2017, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/12/2017 à 18:08, Michael Siegel a écrit : >> The point I was trying to make there, was that the way the article >> states those facts is misleading, not that they are actually untrue. It >> just really provokes the question "So, why use

[DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-20 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 20/12/2017, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > I suspect (paranoia?) that the whole point of writing the article was > precises to give this misleading message i.e. Devuan is an unnecessary > fork. > Errata: 'precises' should be 'precisely' > Systemd is changing this concept into

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/12/2017 à 18:08, Michael Siegel a écrit : The point I was trying to make there, was that the way the article states those facts is misleading, not that they are actually untrue. It just really provokes the question "So, why use Devuan at all?" in kind of a strange way. And as a whole, it

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-19 Thread Michael Siegel
Am 19.12.2017 um 10:23 schrieb Jaromil: > > dear Michael, > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017, Michael Siegel wrote: > >> 1. >> The intro paragraph says: >> "Erklärtes Ziel ist es, nicht den umstrittenen systemd-Dienst als >> 'init'-Prozess fest vorzugeben, sondern die Wahl des init-Prozesses dem >>

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-19 Thread Jaromil
dear Michael, On Tue, 19 Dec 2017, Michael Siegel wrote: > 1. > The intro paragraph says: > "Erklärtes Ziel ist es, nicht den umstrittenen systemd-Dienst als > 'init'-Prozess fest vorzugeben, sondern die Wahl des init-Prozesses dem > Anwender zu überlassen und ein möglichst breites Spektrum an

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-18 Thread arne
You understand German pretty well, It is time to correct the Wiki on all issues concerning Devuan. I can only guess what kind of fanboy wrote the Wiki on this issue. I better remain silent on this. Bye ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Devuan ASCII sprint -- 15-16-17 Dec. 2017

2017-12-11 Thread KatolaZ
Dear D1rs, there will be a Devuan ASCII sprint on 15-16-17th December 2017 (this coming weekend). The aim is to squash a few outstanding bugs in Devuan ASCII, with the view of preparing a beta release. Some of the tasks require "hands-on" to the repos and other services, but virtually everybody

[DNG] Devuan Package Mirrors

2017-10-31 Thread KatolaZ
Dear D1rs, it's a pleasure to announce that we are finally ready to setup new Devuan package mirrors, i.e., mirrors who will be able to serve the whole Devuan package repository. If you are willing to host a Devuan package mirror, please read first through the "Devuan Package Mirror Setup

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-18 Thread John Franklin
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 11:17 AM, dev wrote: > > I do think it is nonetheless a useful marketing tool (which are all > inherently sketchy anyway) for those looking to try a new distro who are > not so interested in the metrics behind the numbers. I get the feeling >

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-18 Thread dev
On 10/17/2017 03:02 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > Great news for a rookie! > As others alluded to, the rating has little veracity for anything more than "just for fun" however I think it should be noted (perhaps in 8pt font?) that the tool *does* show an upward trend from the 12 month

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-17 Thread aitor
Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, for comparison)! https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity I'll usurp Steve Litt's drawing for the occasion:    * *     \ o / \|/   |   A W   R I I I G H T ! ! ! / \ 

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 at 08:03:22 -0500 dev wrote: > Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, > for comparison)! > > https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity Great news for a rookie! Alessandro

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, dev wrote: > Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, > for comparison)! > > https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity Devuan has touched the 30th position on the wave of our Jessie release and can get up to top20 if we manage to be

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
?distribution=devuan - Original Message - From: "Adam Borowski" <kilob...@angband.pl> To: <dng@lists.dyne.org> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50 On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 09:35:30AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 03:50:13PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 09:35:30AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > > One more way to spread it is by adding it to our signatures in the e-mail > > > > Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan > > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
It's not even a poll, its just saying how often it was searched on distrowatch itself -- buZz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 09:35:30AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > One more way to spread it is by adding it to our signatures in the e-mail > > Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan > > > Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, >

Re: [DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Monday, October 16, 2017 9:03 AM Subject: [DNG] Devuan in top 50 Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, for comparison)! https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

[DNG] Devuan in top 50

2017-10-16 Thread dev
Just noticed Devuan is at position 48 today (Redhat is 46, Gentoo 42, for comparison)! https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-10-11 Thread dev
On 10/11/2017 12:26 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 26.09.2017 09:43, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> They haven't put the users at #1 for a long time, why do you think >> that firefox is still very vulnerable to browser fingerprinting? that >> is by design. > > Yes, and its 

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-10-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com): > Yeah just like I have said before this is the only logical reason as > to why browser fingerprinting is still so easy to perform even after > years of the vendors knowing about it. Like many questions of interest, that is actually complicated. Behind

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting dev (devua...@gmail.com): > So, this[1]? I've honestly never bothered to look until you > mentioned it. Primarily that, yes. Mozilla Corp. are highly dependent on contractual funding from all of those firms listed, but IIRC the biggest share is from Google, Inc. So, when I've given

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-28 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/09/2017 à 08:31, Didier Kryn a écrit : I've just compiled Palemoon following the instructions of Jaromil but with a slightly different configuration. I needed to install libgtk2.0-dev, libglib2.0-dev, autoconf2.13 and yasm. There must be some magic in version 2.13 of autoconf

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-28 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/09/2017 à 00:56, hal a écrit : All, Thanks for all the great input. Happy to report I've ditched Chrom* in favor of Palemoon. Noscript and UBlock Origin plugins install fine. Youtube and ALSA working well. Thanks for all the tips! ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-27 Thread hal
All, Thanks for all the great input. Happy to report I've ditched Chrom* in favor of Palemoon. Noscript and UBlock Origin plugins install fine. Youtube and ALSA working well. Thanks for all the tips! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

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