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I wouldn't say systemd developers are evil
merely selfish
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Hi!
As a honest feedback:
Currently I do not read much of the threads here.
Cause again and again I see language like systemd being like a cancer or
On Tue 31 March 2015 10:10:28 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
So here is my plea to stay to what you actually *really* perceive. Stop
assuming intentions. Especially stop assuming bad intentions. I think that
systemd developers essentially mean it good. They have no evil plans to
take over the
Hi!
As a honest feedback:
Currently I do not read much of the threads here.
Cause again and again I see language like systemd being like a cancer or
infecting people´s systems.
It is neither a cancer, nor does it infect systems.
What this kind of language mirrors in my eyes is fear of having
Selfish in what way exactly? Is Systemd closed source?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, shraptor shraptor shrap...@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't say systemd developers are evil
merely selfish
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Hi!
As a honest feedback:
Hi Jörg,
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 10:40:14 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
On Tue 31 March 2015 10:10:28 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
So here is my plea to stay to what you actually *really* perceive.
Stop
assuming intentions. Especially stop assuming bad intentions. I think
that systemd
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 11:11:31 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
On Tue 31 March 2015 09:59:48 Damien Hunter wrote:
Selfish in what way exactly?
maybe in a way where they put their own priorities on top and
ruthlessly follow them, no matter if that breaks stuff for a lot or
even majority
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
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What I perceive as the most pressing social issue around systemd and
systemd upstream, but also partly systemd Debian packagers is the complete
refusal to treat some bug reports and some kind of feedback in a way
On Tue 31 March 2015 11:57:00 Udo Rader wrote:
And when it comes to wording and social (mis)behaviour, I think Lennart
said it very well for himself in his interview last October:
The Open Source community is full of assholes
Perfect excuse to act like one yourself ;-)
[not addressed to OP]
On Tue 31 March 2015 11:16:02 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I do not think that any terms like cancer, infection or cabal are any
helpful there.
NB not *I* invented systemd cabal term, it been Poettering himself, in his
blog I linked above.
here again for your convenience:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:59:28PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
If you want to see this as a cancer or virus infection you are subjected
to, it is your choice. I doubt that it is a choice that is effective at
changing the situation, but it is your choice.
Seeing it as a cancer is
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 11:57:00 schrieb Udo Rader:
On 03/31/2015 10:10 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
It is neither a cancer, nor does it infect systems.
Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading Basic Firewall Controls
On 2015-03-31 10:10, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi!
Neither systemd nor systemd upstream have any power over you.
This is still *free* software.
Stop giving your power away.
Ciao,
the systemd discussion is most importantly not a technical discussion
but a discussion on its
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:10:28 +0200
Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Saying that systemd is the source of all evil and we are doomed to
it, is in no way helpful for any we want to be without systemd
efforts like Devuan. Quite the opposite: It harms the credibility of
such
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