Hi Katolaz,
Apologies for the delay.
KatolaZ writes:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:14:45PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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>> > It's in my todo-list, but I would be grateful of you would be so kind
>> > to please open a bug on bugs.devuan.org, so we are sure we don't
>> > forget it.
>>
On 2019-02-14 07:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:50:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
In general, in a server environment an admin wants to make sure that
an upgrade actually does not stop the running services from doing
their job as planned. Especially if there are customisations
I'm also a person who thinks unattended security upgrades should be an
informed choice of an installer not a default.
My perspective is a little distorted due to experiences in a past life
with Microsoft Windows "Automatic Updates" run amok.
In fact these days, other than the occasional
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:50:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> In general, in a server environment an admin wants to make sure that
> an upgrade actually does not stop the running services from doing
> their job as planned. Especially if there are customisations and/or
> other hacks put in place to
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:14:45PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> It's pulled in through a recommends by python3-software-properties which
> itself is depended on by libreoffice-kde by way of a dependency on the
> software-properties-kde package. The libreoffice-kde package is
>
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
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> None of the available task-*-desktop options brings in
> unattended-upgrades (even with --install-recommends), with the only
> exception of task-kde-desktop with --install-recommends. We need to
> track down what is bringing it in, and remove it.
It's
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 06:02:52AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
> >
> >
> > https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
> >
> >
> >
> > > As of Debian
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> As long as parl-desktop cannot be selected in the installer, I would
> have said you were right if it weren't for what follows below.
>
Dear Olaf,
I double-checked and there is no task-parl-desktop in Devuan. There is
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> Checking the other way around with (notice the lack of an 'r' on the
> depends!) on, for example, task-gnome-desktop
>
> apt-cache depends --recurse \
> --no-suggests \
>
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>>
>> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
>>
>> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
>>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 09:12:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi KatolaZ,
>
> KatolaZ writes:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >>
> >> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
> >> me. Apart from running
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
>> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to
>> reboot and provides a number of
On 2/12/19 3:32 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> it's a Debian thing that depend on systemd to start at reboot
>
> Sounds like something we don't want.
just for the record, unattended-upgrades doesn't depend on systemd.
and it's something i use/want on servers(debian+devuan). for security
updates
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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>
> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to
> reboot and provides a number of knobs to fine tune when, how and under
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> > apt-listchanges packages
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:32:25 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> > apt-listchanges packages are
Hi,
Alessandro Selli writes:
> On 12/02/19 at 14:32, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>>
>>
>> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
>>
>>
>>
>>> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
>>>
On 12/02/19 at 14:32, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
>> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
>> apt-listchanges packages are installed by default
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