[DNG] Devuan lightdm greeter

2017-07-22 Thread Joachim Fahrner
On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter (Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan lightdm greeter

2017-07-22 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-22 09:09, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter (Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations? I found it myown. It is not lightdm, it is slim with theme devuan-curve-purpy. Jochen

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Juergen Moebius writes: No, not only Devuan. You forgot the great "Slackware", the mother of Linux distributions. If we're going to go into ancient history — Slackware was (simplifying) a fork of SLS, but SLS wasn't the first either. Either ABC or H. J. Lu's nameless microdistribution might

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > Strange as it may sound to you, yes, there are still many users who > > are using i386 hw, and the only reasonable way for them to continue > > use those hw is by having Linux. > > While

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:29:36PM +0100, Vincent Bentley wrote: > Intel are not the only x86 cpu manufacturer. > > I use a lot of VIA Eden equipped devices (thin-clients) 32-bit, 1+ GHz, > 1GB RAM usually. They run fine on 12v batteries charged by solar, have > no problems being mounted in

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/23/2017 12:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: And, as this thread goes, you're not going to run a bloated DE on such an underpowered machine, are you? Traditional Amish buggy is undoubtedly efficient and usable transportation...for some people ;>

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 23/07/2017 at 00:51, Rick Moen wrote: [...] > to the > best of my recollection everyone moved to a x86_64 flavour around > 2003-ish (or exited the market). So, I estimate that these computers > are at least 14 years old. lscpu Architecture:i686 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit Byte

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 05:39:44PM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:26:56 +0200 > Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Then this looks like a problem that needs to be looked at. There's no way > > that many people use gear from ≤ 2004 (or a brief throwback of

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: [cut] > > Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that > > between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on i386. So apparently > > there is no reason at all to drop it, rather the opposite. > > Then this

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Vincent Bentley
Intel are not the only x86 cpu manufacturer. I use a lot of VIA Eden equipped devices (thin-clients) 32-bit, 1+ GHz, 1GB RAM usually. They run fine on 12v batteries charged by solar, have no problems being mounted in vehicles (land or marine) and are fully featured with IDE/SATA and network boot

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > All those users are being left without any other choice than throwing > > their hw away by many distributions, without a concrete motivation > > (well, except the usual "it's old so it must be

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > you might probably want to have a look at: > > http://popcon.devuan.org/ > > Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that > between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on i386. So apparently > there is no

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > Strange as it may sound to you, yes, there are still many users who > are using i386 hw, and the only reasonable way for them to continue > use those hw is by having Linux. While I'm sure this is true for some number of people, aren't these now

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Clark Sideroad
On 22/07/17 05:26 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: you might probably want to have a look at: http://popcon.devuan.org/ Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Gulbrandsen (a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no): > Juergen Moebius writes: > >No, not only Devuan. You forgot the great "Slackware", > >the mother of Linux distributions. > > If we're going to go into ancient history — Slackware was > (simplifying) a fork of SLS, but SLS wasn't the first

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > lscpu [...] > Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz [...] > dmidecode --string bios-release-date > 12/21/2007 Thank you for that, Allesandro. Wikipedia's article on the Pentium 4 says this stepping was the _final_ Pentium

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Gregory Nowak (g...@gregn.net): > Guess in that case we should point that out also to the people who > still own and use historic cars from the last century for example. The people who still own and use historic cars do so in the knowledge that, over time, it tends to be an expensive

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 01:12:52 +0200 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/23/2017 12:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > And, as this thread goes, you're not going to run a bloated DE on > > such an underpowered machine, are you? > > Traditional Amish buggy is undoubtedly efficient and

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:21:53 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20170722022153.gb8...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:45:23AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > > The bad news is that if this is the only step I take, "apt-get" will > > want to upgrade 1248 packages (it looks more

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:17:09 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20170722021709.ga8...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at